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made me jizz in my pants... cant freaking wait
    
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Originally Posted by Hiep View Post
this is nvidia congratulating AMD for the 6990 win.
Haha if only they were that humble!


On-Topic: Sli was LONNGGGGG overdue for AMD chipsets, nVidia should have made sli open when they allowed intel to use it on their chipsets
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First off, you're "estimation" isn't really an estimation at all. You're using a competitor's product line in one specific instance by one company to try and come to some form of conclusion that isn't going to happen.
I picked that specific case because it was the two closest motherboards in features that would compare SLI to non-SLI capability. Why would it matter if it's Intel's boards or AMD's? ASUS shouldn't care either way as they are more concerned with the other motherboard manufactures, right?. They are not paying Nvidia for the regular version so why should they mark it up. If they mark that one up they might as well mark up all their boards and if that were the case then the difference would still be the same. BTW it's still an estimation even if you don't agree with the basis it was made it on. We can call it speculating if that makes you feel better.

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First things first. The current price difference doesn't tell markup. Only the MSRP of the two will tell you that.
I found a review supporting the Pro's MSRP, but there seems to be no reviews on the regular one. ASUS's site is no help and I'm not calling a hot line just to find out.

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Also, you're assuming that the AMD chipsets will cost the same to the motherboard manufacturer as the Intel chipset. We don't know how much these cost or will cost for that matter so you really don't have any information at all to even begin to make an estimation.

AMD can only control the cost of the chipset to the motherboard manufacturer and nothing more. They don't control the manufacturer licensing SLI from nVidia so they have nothing to do with whatever the motherboard manufacturer chooses to charge the consumer.
I went and explained that if motherboard manufacturers are using similar components for all their boards (in the same tier) than the difference would come down to the resources needed for the processor and the cost of the chipset. We also have to make the assumption Nvidia's cut is the same for either side. The overall platform value has been one of AMD's selling points. You kind of support that AMD needs to sell cheaper chipsets to be competitive by calling P67 boards expensive.

Yes, it's up to the manufacturer to charge what ever they want to account for the SLI feature, but competition will keep price gouging from getting out of hand. This is probably true for any Intel related manufacturer markup too that could actually throw AMD a bone.

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But...going back to my original point:



We know it's going to be higher...it's just a question of how much higher and will they give us are reasonable boards without SLI so we don't have to pay that markup. Whatever that markup maybe, not all of us need/want/use SLI.
I understand it's going to be higher, I never denied that. I was merely making the point that there is the possibility that it's not going to be a huge increase in cost as you are making believe it to be. I understand some people don't want SLI, but then again this is up to the motherboard manufacturer. They might do something that they are familiar in doing on the Intel boards like SLI only on the higher end boards.

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Also, I don't understand what you mean in this line:



No one is talking about the 890FX or even mentioned it for that matter. What I was saying was just simply the P67 motherboards (for the 1155 to be considered Intel's Mainstream lineup) are really expensive and even more so when you add in the CPU. It's pretty much just an observation after looking at their prices especially when compared to say the costs of AMD's mainstream performance chipsets (GX).

Keep in mind that we're talking about mainstream products here and so the 1100T wouldn't be in that line up. You'd be looking at the Athlon II X4 640, Phenom II X4 820, and possibly the Phenom II 955 in terms of relative mainstream AMD CPU's. Technically, the OEM X4 based Thubans would be in there but they are OEM only and for the basis of this design, I've left them out.
I guess you can consider the P67 to be in lines with the GX and FX series. The GX seems to be more closely related to the H67 because of the integrated graphics. You really have to compare two boards with similar features to use as a basis for expense. Also consider that the 890 chipset is almost a year old.

I wouldn't consider the 2500K a mainstream chip by no means. But, since you are using the 2500K in your example you also have to consider an AMD chip near the same level of performance. Using a chip with the same core count is not a viable example. Another way to go about it is to pick a chip from each side at the same price point and compare the performance.

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Debating performance difference is lame though so I'll end it quickly with this......unless you're doing something where you'll actually notice that difference all the time, you have to ask yourself, is it worth the cost. (I'm not asking you or anything like that I mean the person has to ask themselves if it's worth the cost to them because it's a personal choice and that's the end of that with no other responses).
But yet here we are debating performance. I mean I thought the discussion first started about performance/platform price. And I'm not disagreeing about processor choice being a personal one depending on your needs.

You make it seem like it's the end of the world that you might have to pay an extra $10-20 for a feature you obviously won't use. It's almost commonplace for consumers to pay extra for features they won't use and the only way to protest it is to not buy that company's products. And I know you won't be able to deny the potential BD goodness
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Yessss! Rejoice!!!!!!
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i hope this isnt an apirl fools joke. that would be pretty terrible.
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Yay! No more need for sli hacks!
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Source. Also at TPU.

Good move by NVIDIA.
Why can i sence driver issues here?
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Thats good. More money for Nvidia.
    
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Thanks for the explanation. +1

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NF200=/=SLI

It adds lanes...and well latency... If you're not using over 3 cards it's pretty useless and gets outperformed by vanilla X58.
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