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Hopefully Asus comes out with there own pcb design to fix this nvidia fail. If not then I guess another win this round for AMD if it's not too late already

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the GTX 570 has the same problem but uses low RDS (on) MOSFETs. I saw this coming a mile away when i saw the reference design, same crap as the GTX 570. 50a DrMOS are very expensive and that is why they are not used, apart from the pins the weakest part of any power supply on a PCB, are the inductors, then the MOSFETs. Inductors are a huge issue and the higher inductance the less current it can support.

If they added another phase onto there we wouldn't have seen this problem, but they are cheaper than cheap when it comes to NVIDIA design.

here it is they go digital, but they cheap out and go with the Chil PWM, now volterra is much better but you have to use everything volterra, no chokes instead a single inductor, and usually a single or multiple POSCAP. Chil PWMs also have problems with extreme cold, such as on the R3E, you can't let it get cold like under -100c. Chil allows you to use different types of MOSFETs and caps, this is a first tho seeing DrMOS with a digital Chil PWM, they are much more efficient, better driving signals, but you gotta use more DrMOS, that is why you see mobos with like 8+ phases and then when you goto GPUs that pull more current you see less phases, stupid nvidia.
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I'm waiting for the video of a 590 blowing up at stock with proof it's running at stock. But then again, I doubt anyone would sacrifice a $700 card.
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The GTX 590 has been disappointing. Such a shame.

I can't wait to see a non-reference version of a dual-GF110 card with a proper power delivery design. THAT card will be a monster. (Come on, ASUS, make an nVIDIA version of the ARES!)
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man they were desperate trying to beat amd......serves them right....."flagship" and "affordable" don't belong in the same sentence.....so what? now comes the GTX595(590 done right) or something?
    
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Yeah it's been a disappointment. Where's the mythical up to 15% performance increase over the 6990? With all the issues the 590 is having it proves a) it was rushed and b) it really should be recalled if it's really blowing up on stock.

If Asus or another vendors fixes these issues in a non-reference version, then the 590 may just be a decent card afterall.
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Yeah it's been a disappointment. Where's the mythical up to 15% performance increase over the 6990? With all the issues the 590 is having it proves a) it was rushed and b) it really should be recalled if it's really blowing up on stock.

If Asus or another vendors fixes these issues in a non-reference version, then the 590 may just be a decent card afterall.
I think Asus has one in the works, but it won't be for 700 clams.
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Just had a thought, if it's failing at stock for users, then it's only a matter of time before other 590 users start to encounter this issue. This could be very bad.
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i know they shouldn't of cheaped out on VRM's
but seriously why do you need to overclock a card of this caliber?
what game are you playing that you can't get a steady 30fps on with a dual GF110 card?
    
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