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post #1 of 18
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I have XSPC rasa 750 kit. Will I loose performance if I change the hose to 3/8 ID? Its the only size I can get around here. Originally it came with 7/16 ID hose. And I also noticed that most kit nowadays comes with 1/2 ID.
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post #2 of 18
7/16 is not common. 3/8 and 4/8 are the most popular. there's only a little bit difference of flow rate (increase) from 3/8 to 4/8
post #3 of 18
7/16" tubing is great. Seals so tightly that you need a knife to slit it off the fittings. Add a wormdrive clamp and there's no chance in hell of a leak through a fitting. Only complaint here is that you end up wasting tubing when you make mistakes or have to change something out. Then again, tubing is cheap.

But anyway, if you reduce the internal diameter of a pipe and the force being exerted on the water is the same (e.g. same pump), the water will have a higher pressure (and thus velocity) flowing through the pipe. The choice of tubing is pretty much down to preference and personal setup.
    
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1/2 ID with 3/4 OD FTW. Get your E-PEEN on.
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post #5 of 18
I wouldn't go away from the 1/2" or even better 7/16"

I have run 1/2" in 3 different systems and nowadays I only will run 7/16" just for the piece of mind that I can run this system without clamps and not have any leaks, although I do even run clamps.

I have never ran 3/8" and the only way I would ever think I would is if I was to build a small form factor case and need to save every 1/4" of space.
post #6 of 18
There shouldn't be that much of a performance drop between the 3/8 and the 7/16. I like that the 7/16 doesn't need clamps but it was such a pain in the butt to put on.. had to keep dipping the ends of the tubes into hot water to get them over the 1/2" barbs x_x.
    
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Personally I don't see the physics in there being a performance drop at all. Smaller pipe means less water per set length but per set unit of time, the same amount of water should pass through a set length of pipe due to the increased velocity of the water. Restrictions in the loop will remain constant due to having the same pump, radiator, water blocks, etc. Overall though, smaller tubing will give rise to a slightly faster flow of water. There's also the consideration of water's specific heat capacity - you just won't see a difference in temperature with the tubing change. There are a great many more factors involved in performance difference to make any conclusions about tubing diameter related performance differences.

So yeah, get whatever tubing you like and is secure. 7/16" tubing on 1/2" fittings is perfectly secure and was my personal choice. I even added wormdrive clamps for good measure.
    
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I am running 7/16" over 1/2" XSPC barbs. It was a hard to slide them in, but not too bad. But it will not come up unless you mess with a screwdriver or cut it out. I do not have any clamps on either. Mostly because I got all kinds screwed up with clamp sizes. But I am wondering though if I should go ahead and put some. I really would not want to drain and cut the tubes out. Wonder if there is a way to put clamps without taking the hose off (maybe the metal ones?)
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Originally Posted by Awaz;12948580 
I am running 7/16" over 1/2" XSPC barbs. It was a hard to slide them in, but not too bad. But it will not come up unless you mess with a screwdriver or cut it out. I do not have any clamps on either. Mostly because I got all kinds screwed up with clamp sizes. But I am wondering though if I should go ahead and put some. I really would not want to drain and cut the tubes out. Wonder if there is a way to put clamps without taking the hose off (maybe the metal ones?)

There are all sorts of types of clamps. Some are open by default so you can easily just hook them on. I know the plastic ones are anyway. e.g.:

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Black-PVC-Hose-Clip-58Inch-OD-10-Pack_82.html

Not that I'd use them, though. The metal wormdrive ones are as secure as can be but these do need to be put on before putting the tubing on to the fittings, which in your case would require you slit the tubing and start over.
    
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I used zip ties for extra protection.
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