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Hey all. I was looking at another thread talking about 1080p monitors being a game changer when it comes to PC gaming and I wanted to ask you these questions. Is a monitor with a max res of 1920 x 1200 considered 1080p? Whats the difference between an LCD monitor and an LCD TV, both 1080p and both the same viewing size? I've seen a 120 Hz TV in action watching movies and TV shows, but how does a PC game look on a 120 Hz TV/Monitor?

Basically.....can you fill me on about what monitor specs are relevant and what everyone in PC Land should be aiming to get?
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32 fps =ish human eye sample rate
60Hz = common refresh rate of LCD monitors
120Hz = optional aliasing ability (60*2)

1920x1200p > 1920x1080p
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120Hz will make the fast action movement appear more smooth.

1920x1200 is what you want over 1080...you get more screen real estate.

1080 is 16x9

1200 is 16x10
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Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
32 fps =ish human eye sample rate
WRONG

Numerous studies show that humans are capable of differentiating frames up to 220FPS

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1920x1200p > 1920x1080p
Depends. 1920x1080 has a wider field of view in games, but 1920x1200 has more detail in image.

However, you can run 1920x1080 with a 1920x1200 monitor, so that point is moot. You also get more view area in windows with 1920x1200


1920x1200 is also fullHD, yes.

120hz will make a game appear smoother if you can get 120FPS. With 60hz monitors, you can only see 60FPS tops (though your rig can generate more, but only 60 are shown).

120hz monitors let you see 120FPS. The difference is huge in fast paced FPS games, not so much in any other genre. 120hz TVs are usually not TRUE 120hz, which will make it look horrible.
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Ah I see, my current monitor is 1920 x 1080. So I think i am opting for a 1920 x 1200 pretty soon. And hopefully get it in 120 hz.
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120Hz will make the fast action movement appear more smooth.

1920x1200 is what you want over 1080...you get more screen real estate.

1080 is 16x9

1200 is 16x10
It's mathematically impossible to tell the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz with the human eye...

People often claim the ability to distinguish with high refresh rates, which may be substantiated based on the architecture of the software running the game, but I have yet to see any statistically significant data on this.
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Ah I see, my current monitor is 1920 x 1080. So I think i am opting for a 1920 x 1200 pretty soon. And hopefully get it in 120 hz.
See my post above btw

Also, there are no 120hz 1920x1200 monitors, at least not LCDs. If there are, they are extremely rare and expensive.

If you want QUALITY instead of smoothness in gameplay, look at IPS monitors. They usually cost A TON, but are always worth it. They will make any normal (TN panel) display look like absolute garbage.

Dell u2211h
Dell u2311h
HP ZR24W
Dell u2410
Dell u2711h
HP ZR30W
Dell u3011h


All great IPS monitors. You should look into them.
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It's mathematically impossible to tell the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz with the human eye...

People often claim the ability to distinguish with high refresh rates, which may be substantiated based on the architecture of the software running the game, but I have yet to see any statistically significant data on this.
You are still assuming that the human eye can't see more than 30FPS. That is not correct. The human eye is capable of seeing at least 220FPS, as I stated above.

Also, I can see it very clearly. 60hz is a pain in FPS games. How good is your vision? 20/20 I assume?
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WRONG

Numerous studies show that humans are capable of differentiating frames up to 220FPS



Depends. 1920x1080 has a wider field of view in games, but 1920x1200 has more detail in image.

However, you can run 1920x1080 with a 1920x1200 monitor, so that point is moot. You also get more view area in windows with 1920x1200


1920x1200 is also fullHD, yes.

120hz will make a game appear smoother if you can get 120FPS. With 60hz monitors, you can only see 60FPS tops (though your rig can generate more, but only 60 are shown).

120hz monitors let you see 120FPS. The difference is huge in fast paced FPS games, not so much in any other genre. 120hz TVs are usually not TRUE 120hz, which will make it look horrible.
Cite your sources.
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Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
Cite your sources.
http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm

Also, for 30FPS vs 60FPS, see this following link. You will be amazed¨

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

EDIT: And 2 things. Source: User experience

Cite your sources. "I can't see it" is NOT a valid answer, since everybody has different levels of eyesight
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