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That's really not a good representation of bottlenecking due to an X6...

This use of the term bottleneck is getting old so quickly.
    
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He bought a PhII AND a SB system. Im pretty sure buying 2 systems cost more then buying either one.

And waiting for BD would still have cost him less then getting his SB system.

My point still stands.

I sold my 1090T for $190 used, I bought my i5-2500k that does 5.3GHz for $185.

Not everyone is so lucky, but in the end it cost me nothing to move to SB. My DDR2 board died, I sold my Team Group DDR2 for what I had bought it for originally. I was looking at CH IV's when I was going to move up to DDR3 for my 1090T, but then I saw SB and never looked back.
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That's really not a good representation of bottlenecking due to an X6...

This use of the term bottleneck is getting old so quickly.
Actually it is, I'd even consider it a "best case" for Phenom II chips.

Here is probably worst case.




32 fps in World of Warcraft with a 50% bottleneck on a single 470.
    
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post #184 of 422
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I sold my 1090T for $190 used, I bought my i5-2500k that does 5.3GHz for $185.

Not everyone is so lucky, but in the end it cost me nothing to move to SB. My DDR2 board died, I sold my Team Group DDR2 for what I had bought it for originally. I was looking at CH IV's when I was going to move up to DDR for my 1090T, but then I saw SB and never looked back.
Well fair play to you, and you are lucky to get SB without much cost.

Like i said i bought my 1090T and ChIV on the cheap before SB was even released and I'm happy with my setup so far.

EDIT: Also, and I have said this nearly 3 or 4 times now I think, I agree that SB is the better chip and is definitely the best choice in it's price range at the moment, and i would have gotten it if it was around when i built my rig.
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Actually it is, I'd even consider it a "best case" for Phenom II chips.
I don't see how 99% usage on average and/or 85-99% averages are 'bottlenecks'. But to each his own.
    
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Yes, my 1090T would bottleneck in games that only use 2 cores (a lot of them).



The difference is 4.5GHz on a 1090T on air and water is near impossible without a golden chip and you can hit 4.5GHz with OC Gene with SB.
really? thats ashame, why is that? is it because of temp limits? or is it hardware related, i dont think i would try for 4.5Ghz maybe 4Ghz at the most but thats about it
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Did it? What about people who paid $300 for the 1090T and $220+ for the Crosshair IV? I paid less than $370 for my chip and board, what now?



IMO either wait for bulldozer or grab a used Phenom II, or get a new 955... The x6 isn't worth it for a gamer atm.

With your gpu there is no need for a high performance cpu, this thread is directed towards people running higher end gpus in CF/SLI.
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really? thats ashame, why is that? is it because of temp limits? or is it hardware related, i dont think i would try for 4.5Ghz maybe 4Ghz at the most but thats about it
No my temps were amazing to reach 4.5GHz it was required.

Phenom IIs hate being warm, they excel when they're cold. The colder you get them the higher you can clock them with the least amount of voltage.




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Actually it is, I'd even consider it a "best case" for Phenom II chips.

Here is probably worst case.




32 fps in World of Warcraft with a 50% bottleneck on a single 470.
? what resoultion you were playing at? seems like somthing was wrong with your setup. i thought world of war has mulit-core support now? i think your system wasnt stable at all. have you tested with others to see if its the case? i had customers tested the eyefinity units and the resoution was set at 5040x1050 and it pulled over 100 to 150+ frames when they were in busy villiages. and this was set on everything on high. let me make up an account and test it on my x6...thats pretty horrible if you asked me. maybe it your ddr 2 not liking the thuban? i have no answer for what your experiencing. seems like something went wrong if you ask me...i could be wrong as well. i will test it out on a single 5870 and see what i can get.
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