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You might be able to use the cpu but it will be gimped, to what degree though is unknown. AM3+ has a higher pin count than AM3 so your going to loose some features in an AM3 board.
AM3 cpu's only use 938 of the 941 pins on the board. Hence why BD will work on some Am3 boards with a Bios update.
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32 hd 1080p dont mean anything. you need a monitor with high resoution. like a 30 inch with 2560x1600 or 3 monitor setup like what i have for the eyefinity...resoultion at 5040x1050, you see a your cards working alot harder. =) or you can go iwth a 120hz monitor. =)
Ya my point exactly if im running all AMD I have to spend even more money because my 1080p flat is not good enuff? Bull$hit! lol, Changed out the processor and boom problem fixed.

I do not have to have eyefinitys or higher than 1080p for my gpus to be at max usage I just needed a intel.

Gaming at same res just different CPU and my problem got better...hmmm.
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Wow, brand new mid range architecture is better than 3 year old budget architecture. Thanks OP
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Ya my point exactly if im running all AMD I have to spend even more money because my 1080p flat is not good enuff? Bull$hit! lol, Changed out the processor and boom problem fixed.

I do not have to have eyefinitys or higher than 1080p for my gpus to be at max usage I just needed a intel.

Gaming at same res just different CPU and my problem got better...hmmm.
LOL...sure thing dude...battlefied on 5040x1050 in a server game...i still pull at 60 to 80 frames...and this is on high... and world of warcraft and left for dead i still get over 100fps and everything set on high. doesnt really mean you need intel if you already got an amd rig. =) not saying the sandy bridge is good...but from last setup...your frames were fine. =) this eyefinity setup is using a quad clocked at 3.9ghz and cpu-nb 2600 with rams at 1580 at cas 7. i yet to see a great bottleneck that hurting my performance thats unbareable...if its clearly under 40 to 30 frames...maybe ill get my sandy bridge or bulldozer for that setup. if you must know...that tower cost me little under 900 bucks a year ago. intel is not always the answer if you already have a amd rig. you can find pictures and rig specs on my profile.
Edited by sleepergsr - 3/31/11 at 5:01pm
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Wow, brand new mid range architecture is better than 3 year old budget architecture. Thanks OP
exactly

I would never build a high end crossfire setup with the X4 or X6 in mind.

The Phenom II X4 is good for a CF setup of 5770 or one 5870. Its not meant for high end 69xx series setups.

The Phenom II X6 gets worse performance in almost all games because of scaling.

I am glad the OP got the issue resolve but he was a noob for thinking an X6 would run a setup like that well.
    
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exactly

I would never build a high end crossfire setup with the X4 or X6 in mind.

The Phenom II X4 is good for a CF setup of 5770 or one 5870. Its not meant for high end 69xx series setups.

The Phenom II X6 gets worse performance in almost all games because of scaling.

I am glad the OP got the issue resolve but he was a noob for thinking an X6 would run a setup like that well.
Actually it was recomended in this forum that a phenom x6 would be perfectly fine for crossfired 6950s. So yes I was a noob coming over to PC gaming, however it was other noobs posing as know it alls that mislead me to think my x6 would be fine and is not gonna bottleneck. i.e. the post right above ours.

Never said I was not a noob at PC gaming rigs. So ya....

This post was to clarify to those who are misleading people. "Sleepergsr" above is still arguing after the debate is already won that phenom x 6 is not a bottleneck.

@Sleepergsr: I understand where your coming from, but using your rig as an example to prove me wrong is wrong. You are not gaming with crossfired 6950s like me. Its the 6950s that were to much power for the phenom. i5 fixed my problem not higher res.Throw out numbers all you want but if you dont have first hand experiance with my direct issue than how are you able to advise?
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You might be able to use the cpu but it will be gimped, to what degree though is unknown. AM3+ has a higher pin count than AM3 so your going to loose some features in an AM3 board.
Wrong. No pin information has been released for Bulldozer. The AM3b socket has 942 contacts, but that doesn't mean there's 942 pins. The AM3 socket has 941 contacts, while the CPU has 938 pins.

Besides, ASUS, MSI, and Biostar (unconfirmed) are releasing Bios updates for AM3 boards to support AM3+ CPUs. A tech support representative from ASUS even has said that its for AM3+ Bulldozer CPUs.

There hasn't been any information regarding what exactly could be gimped either. For all we know, AM3 boards just won't be able to run the 8 core.
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Actually it was recomended in this forum that a phenom x6 would be perfectly fine for crossfired 6950s. So yes I was a noob coming over to PC gaming, however it was other noobs posing as know it alls that mislead me to think my x6 would be fine and is not gonna bottleneck. i.e. the post right above ours.

Never said I was not a noob at PC gaming rigs. So ya....
Well you get respect for me for being fair and balanced in your response

We just get a ton of people everyday saying "ditched AMD for Intel" trying to start a flame war. Sandy Bridge is awesome but Denab/Thuban wasn't meant to compete with it. It causes misinformation that AMD somehow "sucks".

The X6 competes with the i5 750.The Lynnfield arch is so good that it can do more with 4 cores than Thuban can with 6 except for media encoding. I had an X6 and 750 and the 750 is better hands down.

The 955/965 competes with the overpriced Q9550.
    
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Well you get respect for me for being fair and balanced in your response

We just get a ton of people everyday saying "ditched AMD for Intel" trying to start a flame war. Sandy Bridge is awesome but Denab/Thuban wasn't meant to compete with it. It causes misinformation that AMD somehow "sucks".

The X6 competes with the i5 750.The Lynnfield arch is so good that it can do more with 4 cores than Thuban can with 6 except for media encoding. I had an X6 and 750 and the 750 is better hands down.

The 955/965 competes with the overpriced Q9550.
No I dont think AMD sucks at all, I love that company and their products. But their top CPU the phenom x 6 is good but for budget builds or none crossfiring rigs for higher end gpus llike mine.

You get people that try and convince others that AMD beats Intel in CPU or it wont be "that mutch" of a performance increase. Some people even state that my 1080p is to low of res to be crossfiring.lol

The fact of the matter as of this date in time AMD has fastest video card, and Intel has fastest CPU. People get so stuck on fanboyism to just say ok you win. I go with what works simple as that.
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6950 CFX is too much for a thuban, 6850's or 6870's cards are the right choice. Remember, your system must be balanced.

We are still waiting for bulldozer and ivy bridge, so it would be a mistake to declare sandy bridge a winner. Not yet
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