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Exactly, further proving my point. Why should PC gamers spend these fortunes on cutting edge hardware when it possibly wont be fully utilized for many years to come? (If at all, depending on how things go)

It's a waste of money. I havn't upgraded my rig sinse i purchased a 6870, and i had buyers remorse with that because i've yet to play a PC title thats properly utilized it. In my eyes, i've paid £200 for nothing. By the time it's properly used - if at all - i expect it's market value to be about £70, if i'm lucky. By which time there willl be equally priced cards that perform better.

I don't see PC hardware sales benefiting at all from how the market has changed. It makes no sense to spend a fortune on high end hardware (Not latest, just high end) All i expect to see are more lame adverts from desperate hardware manufacterer's.

It appears that all the latest hardware offers are bragging rights and no substance.
It's a harsh reality, especially on an overclocking and PC enthusiast forum, where a large majority of the members are PC gamers. It's the reason that I have a fully upgraded rig (as of 9 months ago), except my GPUs. There is little reason for me to waste money on new GPUs when I can still play the games that are coming out just fine.

I get a lot of negative comments when I try and talk about this stuff, like on the Crysis 2 threads. PC gamers expect developers to max-out their hardware and used the latest technology, even if it doesn't make sense from a business/financial perspective.
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PC gamers are the ones that get taken...

Console manufacturers take losses when they sell new consoles, and make their fortunes on selling the games. As long as devs keep optimzing games for current consoles, it would be financially stupid to release a new console at this point. The ONLY motivation to release new consoles right now would be to "win the race" to the first next gen console.

I just wish devs would create the games for the PC and then dumb them down for consoles after, instead of the other way around (adding tiny features for PC after making the game for consoles...).

If only the frat-boys of America would rise up as one and declare to Microsoft that their XBOX needs better graphics to match PC games... but alas... (^_~)
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PC gamers are the ones that get taken...

Console manufacturers take losses when they sell new consoles, and make their fortunes on selling the games. As long as devs keep optimzing games for current consoles, it would be financially stupid to release a new console at this point. The ONLY motivation to release new consoles right now would be to "win the race" to the first next gen console.
And that is all the motivation that is needed. There a things consoles could be doing to make more money, or retain or grow their current user base, and that is the reason to make a next-gen console that does those things. And if company A doesn't do it then company B has even more reason to do it and take their business. Competition will be all that is needed to make sure new consoles are created.
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Honestly this is how you fix the industry...

MS , YOU STUPID MUTHA TRUCKAS YOU NEED TO ALLOW PC CONTENT TO BE PLAYED ON YOUR CONSOLES LIKE YOU WAS GONNA WITH YOUR FLAGSHIP CONSOLE 10 YEARS BACK!!!


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Honestly this is how you fix the industry...

MS , YOU STUPID MUTHA TRUCKAS YOU NEED TO ALLOW PC CONTENT TO BE PLAYED ON YOUR CONSOLES LIKE YOU WAS GONNA WITH YOUR FLAGSHIP CONSOLE 10 YEARS BACK!!!


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That argument doesn't make much sense, the hardware on the console would still be fixed, so even if the 360 could have run PC games, it'd still be 6 year old PC hardware.

And this would basically mean that consoles would become PCs, which would make them pretty much instantly hackable. It would get rid of exclusivity of titles, which would mean that all consoles would become pretty much the same, and what you'd end up with is what you have now where 100 different companies make custom PCs, and people build their own, and you get 1000 different configurations, and no more fixed hardware.
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That argument doesn't make much sense, the hardware on the console would still be fixed, so even if the 360 could have run PC games, it'd still be 6 year old PC hardware.

And this would basically mean that consoles would become PCs, which would make them pretty much instantly hackable. It would get rid of exclusivity of titles, which would mean that all consoles would become pretty much the same, and what you'd end up with is what you have now where 100 different companies make custom PCs, and people build their own, and you get 1000 different configurations, and no more fixed hardware.
Hackable? All current consoles are hackable...
Also, the down to earth configurations are similar, x86/ x86-64, its everywhere.
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Yup and don't forget the black death Cloud is rolling in soon.

My point was that if MS had done what they said they were going to do with the xBox and load content direct to the HDD, to start with xBox 360 could have been an upgradable console that would be kickin Sony butt for years to come. It's not like this is Apple we're talking about.

Yeesh just think if Jobs decided there was money to be made in Game consoles. iConsole.

Well anyway had MS followed their plan to begin with PC games would get more attention to detail from the developers because they'd know it could go to the 360.

MS could still do that for their next Gen console.

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There is little reason for me to waste money on new GPUs when I can still play the games that are coming out just fine.
I'm waiting for BF3 to come out before upgrading, I see no need with any other game. My headphones cost more than my GPU at the moment :/
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Hackable? All current consoles are hackable...
Also, the down to earth configurations are similar, x86/ x86-64, its everywhere.
This is why i cannot stand the current generation of consoles. A "Console" by todays standard basically entails all the negatives of a PC (Crashes, lockups, bugs, hacking) with the addition of less control and far more retrictions.

In my mind, they are not "Consoles". Consoles are dedicated gaming devices such as the NES, SNES, SEGA Genesis, N64, Gamecube....

What all of the above have in common is that they're dedicated to gaming and nothing else. No movies, not browsing the web; gaming. Nice. And. Simple. Just as it should be. I "console" Game to get away from the crashes and instability PC gaming can (sometimes/rarely) involve.

the PS3, 360 and Wii (Wii to a lesser extent) i refer to as media-hubs. They're too PC-like, and everything they can do, my PC can do better. If my PC crashes or dies, i can fix it.

Sadly i think the future lies down the road these media-hubs have carved out. They'll eventually become more "PC like", with the users wanting a similar level of control/freedom which'll only happen after we've heard another few hundred court cases like the Sony VS Geohot malarky...
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When this game gonna come out, no one will be able to talk to me for at least 48 hours, then bathroom time, sleep, eat, drink and then another 48 hours of pure fun!
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