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Well FA:NV was developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Bethesda. Obsidian should have fixed the issues. Obviously Bethesda wasn't going to say "Sorry, fix it up!" because of how they did with their own games.

They were using Bethesda's tech, but as the developer that is primarily resting on their shoulders, not Bethesda's. (Yes, most of the issues were with the engine, so they should have corroborated with Bethesda.)
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I dont think consoles are ruining anything,its the company that make the games that are ruining everything.
If u want to port a pc game fine,but make sure it works and works well thats all anyone ever cares about.
And when pc players try to join a game dont make us sit in a lobby waiting for other players,that is for the console crowd. Simple little things will keep everyone happy!
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Man this thread got messy, time to make it messier...

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This guy is stupid: he's urging developers to stop lying about being Focused on PC, let's see what happens when Bobby Kotick stepped in and told everyone the truth - a PR disaster, and a bunch of boycotters, the lesson is: liying is better for business.
Lying is good for business? Well duh, but only true in the short run. The point is that lying is unethical and will only come back to hurt you. It's going to be obvious to the gamers when they get their hands on the finished game that they have been lied to. Do you really think gamers are going to listen to another word that dev says anymore? It's one thing that they scammed us out of some money one time, but we will still be here when they have to release their next game.

Not to add more fuel on the fire, but the argument that consoles are hurting PC games should have been resolved years ago. Consoles are here to stay and developers are more likely to abandon PCs then consoles at this point. The fault now for these poorly developed games falls on guess who, the developer of course.

Consoles have been around and are going to be around for a while. If devs haven't they should adapt a method so that they can make quality games for each platform. It's going to take time and maybe one or two games for developers that were primarily on PC to be able to allocate the resources needed to make quality games on all platforms.
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^ They didn't pay off any movie studios. Blu-Ray was the more superior product over HD-DVD and it won accordingly. I remember arguing the toss with some n00b on a random forum who said HD-DVD was better and so was the Xbox (...and would you believe it he owned an xbox 360 and hated the PS3? Hmm any bias detected?). I kept posting tech specs and pointing out that as with anything, I'll put my weight behind the more advanced technology to win. Which, Blu-Ray was standardised and I won the debate.

It also helps if you OWN some movie studios, as Sony do.
Actually the HD-DVD was a better quality product over blueray.

http://www.hometheaterblog.com/homet...ct-vs-fiction/

I for one am shattered that sony had to play trick to get people on their side.
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I long for the day that games are made for pc and then ported to consoles. I understand having exclusive games but seriously, Don't make a game playability exclusive as well.
Ummmm they already are. The problem is that some moron decided that throwing away the PC controls makes sense, instead of coding in console controls and leaving everything in.

See this is what I mean. People are so used to being screwed over by the developers they assume that games are ported to PC. They aren't they are 100% built on PC, stored on Server and ported to console. It's been this way since the dawn of console and computers. I don't know how to make this any clearer. Do people HONESTLY believe that Atari got started by developing their games on their 1st console? Or Nintendo on the Colecovision? C'mon you're OCN members you are enthusiast PC owners. You're supposed to be smarter than the average console fanbois.

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post #96 of 126
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Actually the HD-DVD was a better quality product over blueray.

http://www.hometheaterblog.com/homet...ct-vs-fiction/

I for one am shattered that sony had to play trick to get people on their side.
Have you even read the article? It's not saying that the HD DVD is better, it's actually saying that the HD DVD is still inferior to the Blu-ray, just not so bad as one usually believes. The only good thing is the picture quality, an extremely subjective matter. And since this guy is extremely biased judging by how he writes, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually convinced himself that the HD DVD quality was superior.
     
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http://www.digitalbattle.com/2010/02...-budgets-ever/

lol APB so much money and time yet it fell like a rock
APB 50 million, Too Human 60+ million? lol

MSG4, Shenmue, GTA IV were great games worth the budget but still ridiculous. These kind of budgets push out the independent devs, and they are the life blood of the PC gaming industry. Without them we keep getting multiplatform games from major publishers. Many PC gamers can careless about console AAA titles, while people are buying Shogun, SC, WoW etc. in the millions. We need our own devs but the publishers will only swallow them up if they do produce a good game and make it multiplatform. You can't blame the devs though, there's a big difference between 2 million to make a game and 30-50 million. All of your employees are paid and living good if they take the 30 million, but they lose control over deadlines and content offered, screwing the gamers in the end.
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post #98 of 126
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Because it is junk. To be honest most console gamers are gullable. Any random developer could make a generic FPS game and it will make profit on consoles. Console gamers are synoymous with teenage kids who usually like anything that caters there short attention span.

Even if Starcraft 2 (as an example) came out on consoles the market would be small, even if they came with free keyboard/mouse adapter.

Gaming is a form of entertain like Films and Music Industry. Serious critics judge nw films, for example based on quality. Games shouldn't be dumbed down. I want quality games!
The problem is that every time somebody speaks up they get called an elitist, a pirate, or given a lame excuse like "devs can't focus on making a good game! They need money, so it's ok if they release lame games in the dozens, it's our duty to support them!"
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You guys who complain about one system being better or worse than the other are all idiots. I have a PS3, Xbox360, PC, I enjoy them all for certain aspects.
They all have their ups, and they all have their downs.
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That's cool. Hopefully the next gen consoles can actually do that.
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