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That's the web applications are being done now. They are trying to replicate desktop functionality. When you read email in thunderbird or outlook you don't right click the email and open it in a new program instance. You have your preview pane and that's how you view the emails.

I think your stuck in the 1997. Where everything was static and every thing you did was a page refresh.

And? I open my new emails in tabs in Thunderbird. Why? Because it lets me do it faster (eg. Images, etc can load before I read it) rather than waiting for it to load due to javascript.

Sure, it might look nice and flashy to have emails preview and fade in, etc but it wastes my damn time compared to just going through my emails and opening the new ones in new tabs in Thunderbird.
    
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And? I open my new emails in tabs in Thunderbird. Why? Because it lets me do it faster (eg. Images, etc can load before I read it) rather than waiting for it to load due to javascript.

Sure, it might look nice and flashy to have emails preview and fade in, etc but it wastes my damn time compared to just going through my emails and opening the new ones in new tabs in Thunderbird.
Hmm not sure what your talking about but the new yahoo mail and hotmail is pretty good. Hotmail with reading pane on is nice. Not sure I'm seeing any of the fade in and outs that your talking about. But I can see how they can get annoying. When I do sites I try to get away from that because your right people just want to get in there and get stuff done. But I still like to add functionality without page refreshes. From our feedback people like this better.

On one site we used to have a date selector and datatable selector and people would hit a chart button. This would take them to a new page. They would then have to use the back button and then change the points and hit chart again. Hit back. Repeat. I added functionality that allows them to just stay on the page and keep generating charts. This really made the site much more usable.

The live mail replicates how I use thunderbird perfectly, although I'm using windows live mail desktop right now. Which is the same thing really. Inbox on left and pane on right. We use thunderbird at work for most of our clients and I have never seen anybody use the tabs for reading emails. You may be use to backwards functionality though, because you use Linux. Although I would expect that more from a MacOSX user than a Gnome or KDE user.

Have you been to the yahoo mail on a tablet? It's real nice. It acts just like the iPad built in mail. Without javascript this would not be possible.
    
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Hmm not sure what your talking about but the new yahoo mail and hotmail is pretty good. Hotmail with reading pane on is nice. Not sure I'm seeing any of the fade in and outs that your talking about. But I can see how they can get annoying. When I do sites I try to get away from that because your right people just want to get in there and get stuff done. But I still like to add functionality without page refreshes. From our feedback people like this better.

On one site we used to have a date selector and datatable selector and people would hit a chart button. This would take them to a new page. They would then have to use the back button and then change the points and hit chart again. Hit back. Repeat. I added functionality that allows them to just stay on the page and keep generating charts. This really made the site much more usable.

The live mail replicates how I use thunderbird perfectly, although I'm using windows live mail desktop right now. Which is the same thing really. Inbox on left and pane on right. We use thunderbird at work for most of our clients and I have never seen anybody use the tabs for reading emails. You may be use to backwards functionality though, because you use Linux. Although I would expect that more from a MacOSX user than a Gnome or KDE user.

Have you been to the yahoo mail on a tablet? It's real nice. It acts just like the iPad built in mail. Without javascript this would not be possible.
I prefer the tabbed emails simply because it's faster to load everything, rather than opening an email and waiting the few seconds for it to load, you open your emails at once and they're loaded before you go to read them.

And I don't use Gnome nor KDE, I'm using LXDE but trying to get used to gnome with the awesome tiling wm instead of metacity or gnome-shell.
There's some uses for the javascript style message panes as you're saying but it doesn't mean it's best for everyone, however most people don't go for the fastest method, I still cringe whenever I see someone taking the time to right click, cut, then copy the thing they just cut back to where it was and then pasting another copy of it.
    
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