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Hello.

I will begin building a water cooled mini-ITX system soon and I have a few questions regarding the pump I'm thinking of using. This is the only pump I have found that will fit in the case (Sugo 05) if my mesurements are correct so "buy a 355 instead" type of answers won't help me.

So, my question is if the PCPS will be able to power a loop consisting of 1 GPU (something like 6950), 1 120mm radiator and 1 CPU (something like i5) and how the performance will be like (will I be able to OC?).

Speccs:
Input Voltage: 12V
Frequency: 78Hz
Pump Output: 250 l/h
Delivery Head: 1.60 m water column
Power Consumption: 4W

Link to the pump: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6728/ex-pmp-60/Innovatek_Eheim_Circulating_PCPS-Pump_12V_w_Integrated_Reservoir_501329.html

/Kubba
Edited by Kubba - 4/1/11 at 6:51am
post #2 of 15
I think the pump will be fine for such a small loop. Just use a non-restrictive GPU block (such as the EK or DD full cover blocks) and CPU block (Such as the XSPC Rasa) you shouldn't have any problems.

The real issue is going to be the 120mm radiator. That simply isn't enough radiator for you want to do unless you want to use a really powerful high speed fan.

EDIT: Also, that pump looks much bigger than an MCP355 and Bitspower Miniwater tank combo.
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post #3 of 15
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hmm, yeah the radiator is small indeed but i'm planning on using two GT 1150RPM in push/pull, will that be ok?

EDIT: Just got a text messenge saying that my Sugo 05 has arrived, i will begin measuring asap, that mini water tank sure looks awesome smile.gif
Edited by Kubba - 4/1/11 at 7:15am
post #4 of 15
Depending on how the pump is postioned, the MCP355/355/35x will not fit height footprint. The other two diemsnions, the DDC pump fits far better. So, it's understandable. A mini-ITX case is super slim.
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post #5 of 15
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alright, I just measured the **** out of that case and found that the PCPS is 2mm away from fitting in the case (it will hit the 120mm fan). Maybe you can carve away 1mm plastic on each side or something, hmm.

Btw, I just got this crazy idea of mounting a DDC + top on the PSU (facing downwards ofc) but i wonder if it will hit the GPU, gotta measure some more.... brb biggrin.gif

EDIT: Whats the height on a laining DDC without any top?
post #6 of 15
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I made this picture with my insane photoshop skills (yes, its ps lol), so.. do you think it's 2mm?
post #7 of 15
Yes, I think that is 2mm. You should be able to get it to fit.

Did you think about modding the case at all?
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Yep, i have a few things in mind if something wouldnt fit. One option is to cut out the fan grill and mount the fan directly to the front. If the GPU hits the radiator i might move the motherboard a few inches (its possible since the card is single slot with WC).

Other then that ill do a few things for the looks, including mounting handles, plexi on the right side, sleeve cables, paint the fans, solder away (****ty english, sry) cables from the PSU I dont need (& shorten them) and cut holes for 3 50mm fans in the back (& paint them).

Ive thought about it but havent found a way to mod it to make more room for the pump, if you move the rad & fans abit to the left they will hit the GPU and so on.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Kubba;12962443 
I made this picture with my insane photoshop skills (yes, its ps lol), so.. do you think it's 2mm?

If you have a dremmel or a small hand sander, you should be able to take off those areas smoothly.

As for the DDC pumps, the size is like this for stock ...
NOTE: this is prior to adding on the tubing and clamps over the fittings. Also, the pump can not be run upside down or when the fittings are pointing down to the ground.

ddc32_size_750w.jpg
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post #10 of 15
Also, how much heat does the PCPS put out? You might need ventilation flowing over the pump and out the mini-ITX case too.
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