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I too am looking between these 2 drives at the moment for music/HD movie storage. I've read some reviews on the WD drive and it seems to have Load Cycle Count issue. And I came across this after further researching LCC: (I know its about a different drive, but this is just an explanation of LCC)
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There is a strange feature on my new Western Digital Caviar Green (WD5000AADS, 500 GB) hard drive. After a period of 8 seconds of inactivity, the drive heads “park” themselves, or go into standby position. This behavior is fine on certain systems, but on my system, it seems inappropriate. This is because almost as soon as the heads are parked, they are activated again. This leads to wild oscillation between the two states.

An important term to understand is “load cycle count”. In practical terms it means more or less how many times the heads have been activated. In my case in normal use, after three days (20 hours), the load cycle count had arrived at over 1300. If this is representative of normal behavior, in one hour therefore there are 65 load cycles. According to Western Digital, the drive is specified to endure 300000 load cycles. If the load cycles continued at the rate of the first three days, the drive is therefore specified to continue working for a total of approximately 4615 hours. If we estimate that on an average day a person works for 6 hours on the computer, the count would exceed 300000 in 769 days or slightly more than two years.

It seems like WD introduced somekind of fix which changed the park time from 8secs to 5mins but I've read a few user reviews saying they don't work 100% either.


So I suppose I should go with the Samsung F4?
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I had two Samsung drives for RAID0 and sent them back because of noise. You may want to check this out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...tent-vibration
Ended up with two WD RE4's, which are silent, very fast and expensive.
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Was it the F4 HD204UI that you had?

Also the RE4 is really out of my price range, its essentially between these two models x] (unless there are other comparabley priced/performance units)
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The WD proves to be more reliable so far..

At least in my case.
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I'd go with a Hitachi 5K3000. Fastest low power (5940rpm) drive around.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scytus View Post
Was it the F4 HD204UI that you had?

Also the RE4 is really out of my price range, its essentially between these two models x] (unless there are other comparabley priced/performance units)
I had two 320GB F4's:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152244

They were fast and the noise was very slight but it drove me crazy.
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Well that just makes it more difficult to choose as I was about ready to purchase the F4 xD

I am lost with which decision to make now, has anyone experienced both units? or know of an impression of someone that has?
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Originally Posted by blupupher View Post
I have 2 of the WD20EARS 2TB drives as storage drives.
They are very quiet, but are not the fastest drives out there (but are not designed to be, they are storage drives, not main OS drives).




For 1 drive, 2.3 w is not a huge issue, but when you start having 5+ drives, it makes a difference.

I don't think lower speed has anything to do with the life of the drive, just the heat, noise and power use.
Hope this is a good comparison let me know if it helps i have 3 samsung f4's 2tb so far so good and cheap to boot ..... look at temps as well
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Runnin' 2TB F4's in a RAID1. Samsung gets my vote.
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Those of you running the 2TB F4's, is the noise noticeable?
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