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Originally Posted by bratas;13010812 
[69.XX.XX.XX 1] (Shared Hosting Nameserver IP) that is the IP that is blacklisted

But it isn't.. http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a69.65.63.88

69.65.63.88 =/= juggernaut.pacifichost.com
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post #12 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by nekon View Post
But it isn't.. http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.a...%3a69.65.63.88

69.65.63.88 =/= juggernaut.pacifichost.com
But it is
http://www.robtex.com/dns/teengirl.co.uk.html#records

ns-soa ns3.pacifichost.com
163 days old
69.65.63.88
United States
(none)
ns ns3.pacifichost.com
163 days old
69.65.63.88



End result, dump pacifichost if you want to send mail to google without it getting blocked.
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But it is
http://www.robtex.com/dns/teengirl.co.uk.html#records

ns-soa ns3.pacifichost.com
163 days old
69.65.63.88
United States
(none)
ns ns3.pacifichost.com
163 days old
69.65.63.88



End result, dump pacifichost if you want to send mail to google without it getting blocked.
Yeah I'm still not seeing it..
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just do a search on google blacklist 69.65.63.88

4 hits pop up with relation to adult sites.
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post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by nekon View Post
They still accept e-mail from clients over standard ports, I've tried them all. Pacifichost says my dedicated IP won't save me from the shared IP of the box the site is hosted on in regards to mail servers.. I ran the shared IP through MXToolBox and it isn't listed either.. I'm at a loss and neither my web host or my ISP have any clue or are any closer to returning my ability to send outgoing e-mails.
Ah, I see what's going on now. You have a shared hosting provider, and somebody else on the box has likely been spamming. Unfortunately you didn't provide the IP address to look it up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bratas View Post
It depends on the mail service he is using. Port 587 is not a mail port.
Port 587 IS a mail port. It's specifically designed for end users to send mail to their mail providers, as opposed to port 25, which is designed for mail servers to talk to each other. Sending mail on port 587 requires authentication with the SMTP server. See RFC 2476.

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Recently I learned that the dedicated IP I pay my web host for doesn't actually protect me from MX blacklists like I thought. As it turns out we're still bound by the IP of the box itself, or at least this was how it was explained to me. My objection with your explanation is that both the IP of the shared box, and the dedicated IP I pay for are not blacklisted. I don't think it's the mail server, I'm almost positive it's MyISP.
Yes, but your shared host is not running the mail server on your "dedicated" IP; only your web site. Again, you'll want to share the actual IP address for the mail server. Or better yet, get off that apparently spam-friendly web host.
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post #16 of 24
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just do a search on google blacklist 69.65.63.88

4 hits pop up with relation to adult sites.
I see the adult sites, but still not listed on any blacklists.. I'm sure Google still blocks by IP but I thought they try to block by domain first. None the less, all of that doesn't directly explain my MX block issues. I appreciate the time you've contributed thus far, but I'm not seeing the connection.


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Yes, but your shared host is not running the mail server on your "dedicated" IP; only your web site. Again, you'll want to share the actual IP address for the mail server. Or better yet, get off that apparently spam-friendly web host.
I decided to post it a little earlier, hopefully it will do some good. 69.65.63.88
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I decided to post it a little earlier, hopefully it will do some good. 69.65.63.88
Wrong IP address. That's your supposedly "dedicated" IP. The IP we need is the server's IP where mail is originating from. You blanked it out in your first post.
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Wrong IP address. That's your supposedly "dedicated" IP. The IP we need is the server's IP where mail is originating from. You blanked it out in your first post.
[209.85.225.27] Google IP
[69.65.63.88] Web Host (Pacific Host) Shared IP =/= juggernaut.pacifichost.com
[173.XXX.XXX.XX] MyISP IP
[192.XXX.X.XXX] Home Network DHCP IP

Above are the only IP addys listed in delivery failure e-mail, below is the dedicated IP I purchased from my web host:

[209.212.XXX.XX] Web Host Supplied Dedicated IP
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Quote:
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[69.65.63.88] Web Host (Pacific Host) Shared IP =/= juggernaut.pacifichost.com
This is the IP address that Google is complaining about in their bounce message?

If that's the case, there's very little you can do unless you (or more accurately Pacific Hosting Whatever) can actually get hold of someone at Google who knows what's going on....

Or you can switch web hosts.
Edited by error10 - 4/5/11 at 8:42pm
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This is the IP address that Google is complaining about in their bounce message?

If that's the case, there's very little you can do unless you (or more accurately Pacific Hosting Whatever) can actually get hold of someone at Google who knows what's going on....

Or you can switch web hosts.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.. My host says it's actually this IP 69.65.41.170 which doesn't appear anywhere in the bounce message. I don't think Pacific Host has a clue.. Now they're offering to move me to another shared box OR reimburse me for the remaining time (1yr) I have left.. I'm not sure what I'm going to do.. Any recommendations on a good web host?
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