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Meh...not sure if serious.
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But thats not MSRP, and thats a 768MB cards not 1GB ones. The price is pretty fair.
1 GB GTX460s go for 180 CAD after rebate. Still cheaper then this.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...30252(ME).aspx
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...30030(ME).aspx
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Heck, on Newegg you can pick up a 1GB GTX460 card for 140USD after rebate.
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Heck, on Newegg you can pick up a 1GB GTX460 card for 140USD after rebate.
EVGA ones too...

Nvm, those are SE. But they have galaxy ones.

BTW, does all fermi cards and up have bad VRMs? Or has this only plagued the 570+? I'm thinking of going nvidia when I grab a bulldozer rather then crossfiring another 5850.
Edited by Domino - 4/1/11 at 4:36pm
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Yea mine says about:blank
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Obviously, a unique card gets a price premium.
A top performing card gets a price premium. This will not sell well.

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BTW, does all fermi cards and up have bad VRMs? Or has this only plagued the 570+? I'm thinking of going nvidia when I grab a bulldozer rather then crossfiring another 5850.
Fermi normally has good VRMs. The 570 and 590 are the only ones to have their own death cult following.
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EVGA ones too...

Nvm, those are SE. But they have galaxy ones.

BTW, does all fermi cards and up have bad VRMs? Or has this only plagued the 570+? I'm thinking of going nvidia when I grab a bulldozer rather then crossfiring another 5850.
I've killed 2 570s and heard of many others dying, but this 580 has been bulletproof due to using a reasonable number of VRMs. I have honestly never heard of a single instance of the 580s having blown out, and if you cehck online you can find a video of some ASUS employee taking a 580 to 1500 MHZ core. (stock is around 770) So save yourself the trouble and avoid the 570 if you're an overclocker, but the 580 is highly recommended.

The 590 has been problematic in the VRM department too from what I hear, but these seems to be the only 2.

Strange that they skimped out on the 570/590 VRMs to cut costs, wonder if ther's a shortage or something because that seems to be a pretty crucial component.
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something fishy about this. If a 6990 > 590, then why does 6970 crossfire lose to a 590?
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something fishy about this. If a 6990 > 590, then why does 6970 crossfire lose to a 590?
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Hi guys. I found this site looking for a review of this card. Sadly I don't think this card will ever be available to me in the U.K, but I did convince my friend to buy one. Why?

Well the answer is rather complex. I am a reviewer myself and I review hardware all the time. However, I am more of a thorough reviewer than most and often visit old hardware (even three years old) to see how it performs now as early reviews are usually a good 15% down on how it will perform into the future. So as you have probably guessed I am not paid to do what I do and as thus can come down super hard on new hardware if I think it's crap.

That said, once again there are quite a few things missing from the review. Some of it has been pointed out, others not.

Firstly this card is unique. It is a custom card. 99% of other cards are all mass produced and then had a sticker shoved on the cooler shroud (460 stock, 470, 480 and so on). This is why it has always made me laugh when reading customer reviews on sites such as newegg when people say "This card is trash, I should never have bought a *insert company name here* and got a *insert company name here*.

So when buying this particular card it can only be gotten via EVGA and so you are getting an exclusive item. Exclusive items come at a cost.

Secondly SLI does not come without headaches. The bridges are most always rubbish and need fettling before it works properly. Most of the SLI systems I have built have displayed tearing and artefacts down to the poor bridges.

Thirdly it has an SLI connector because the card was originally intended to be SLI capable. And, for want of making it simple is SLI capable. However, when Nvidia got wind of it they told EVGA not to go ahead with it. I would imagine this was for the same reason that they did not make triple SLI available themselves as the 460 was such a good card that three of them would have made their expensive high end cards defunct overnight (if only in benchmarks which let's face it most people buy high end cards for any way, to show off and toss off in a corner).

I myself have worked in R&D (not any more) and I can tell you now that bringing in a designer to design the custom PCB and then the custom cooler and making it all work does not come cheap. This card (being unique) will not share a single piece or part that another card uses apart from the blazingly obvious (the DVI headers and 8 pin sockets). The rest has all had to be designed and manufactured only for this card.

That means it will be made in woefully less numbers than a stock 460.

All products like this carry a premium price tag. Right now you can get a 5870 on Newegg for $160 after rebates. An Asus Ares will cost you $960 with no rebates. Why? because you are getting a custom product.

Personally I think the 2 win will sell very well, if only on the basis of the above. It's more expensive than SLI 460 but it's big, fast, and (IMO) affordable. $420 or so is not going to bankrupt any one. A half decent GPU will cost closing in on a third of that any way.
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