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looks good, doesn't really matter, they are all VERY customizable.

Mint is a good way to make the transition from windows people say.

Personally I think Ubuntu and Mint have the least amount of driver compatibility issues.

I'm no Expert in Linux, I started with Ubuntu 9.04-9.10 and have been happy with Ubuntu ever since.

If you do go Ubuntu, use 10.10 LTS
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

Just a tip I believe you need a 64bit version for VM's. might want to keep that in mind.
I agree with this, mint always seem to work the best coming from a die-hard kubuntu fan, I switched to ubuntu and don't really regret it, it just took a bit more work to customize my ui is the only problem I had. which, was a bit annoying, I feel like gnome locks you into its interface too much.
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I will almost definitely be going with Gnome Shell 3 over Unity if its anything like it always has been. It's either I go to Gnome Shell 3 or make the big jump to KDE...which I am very reluctant to do.
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ok, mint is king. i like gnome. boo unity. lol will they release a "Gubuntu"?
    
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Yeah but instead of devoting those resources to releasing a new, seemingly unnecessary version, couldn't those like Ubuntu just support the ones they had already made, for longer?
Sure they could, but that wouldn't fit their vision. Mark Shuttleworth wants to push "his" Linux in a different direction to the rest. That is why they developed Unity, for example. Shuttleworth doesn't see the desktop UI staying the same as it is forever, and he wants to be ahead of the curve as things shift to big shiny buttons and wasted screen real estate (not that screen real estate has ever been used well). He might be onto something too, if rumours about Microsoft working on an all-eyecandy-no-productivity UI are true.

With Linux distros you should pick one that closely matches your philosophy on software. With Windows and OSX you don't need to, you just have to re-orient yourself to fit the mould that the Big Two want you to fit into.
    
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BUMP, its Linux.
Always good to spread the word about Linux
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ok, mint is king. i like gnome. boo unity. lol will they release a "Gubuntu"?

lol I hope not, or at least call it some thing els... Too many buntu's




By the time I add docks, beryl, compiz, and more... It just becomes the same anyway...

Dependency hell, unfortunately yes. Especially with drivers for all kinds of stuff.
mostly proprietary gizmo's. I had problems with a Wifi card and a VGA card. both are fixed with updates though but yeah it was a pain.

Please people don't let this discourage you though. Even if Linux isn't for you, it is a fun experience to play with, and more important a concept that is VERY IMPORTANT. FREE FREE FREE, is better!

Tell your family you use LINUX, and see what happens. They automatically will label you a "computer guy" Its pretty funny. Till you get phone calls all the time asking how to upgrade windows.
Edited by cayennemist - 4/2/11 at 9:58pm
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Just say you don't use Windows so you can't help them.
    
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BUMP, its Linux.
Always good to spread the word about Linux



lol I hope not, or at least call it some thing els... Too many buntu's




By the time I add docks, beryl, compiz, and more... It just becomes the same anyway...

Dependency hell, unfortunately yes. Especially with drivers for all kinds of stuff.
mostly proprietary gizmo's. I had problems with a Wifi card and a VGA card. both are fixed with updates though but yeah it was a pain.

Please people don't let this discourage you though. Even if Linux isn't for you, it is a fun experience to play with, and more important a concept that is VERY IMPORTANT. FREE FREE FREE, is better!

Tell your family you use LINUX, and see what happens. They automatically will label you a "computer guy" Its pretty funny. Till you get phone calls all the time asking how to upgrade windows.
I tired of dependency hell and was forced back to windows. Enough is enough, and linux goes way beyond enough with dependency hell. When people say windows "just works" that is what they are referring to. So FREE = you get what you pay for. In this case at least. I'll keep my eye on linux but I'm certainly not going to switch over until they clear some key hurdles that they've always failed to clear. I've got better things to do with my computing time than hack through dependency hell.
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post #58 of 96
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I tired of dependency hell and was forced back to windows. Enough is enough, and linux goes way beyond enough with dependency hell. When people say windows "just works" that is what they are referring to. So FREE = you get what you pay for. In this case at least. I'll keep my eye on linux but I'm certainly not going to switch over until they clear some key hurdles that they've always failed to clear. I've got better things to do with my computing time than hack through dependency hell.
You really haven't seen error10's little satire on windows then and probably haven't used Linux in a long time.

For me. It took less than 30mins to set up everything in Linux (Kubuntu in this example). Why because it fetched or already setup the drivers for all the hardware that I have.
With windows it take 30mins to just install the OS.

Dependency hell? What exactly where you doing that got you to that point? Adding in random ppas and repos?
     
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I'll wait for the Mint team to fix Canonical's mistakes like they did with 10.10.
Edited by ItsEggrollTime - 4/3/11 at 1:40pm
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I run in to problems often with Ubuntu now that I think of it.
It hates my Video card. Didn't like my wifi card, flash at the beginning would be a better start. And 64b flash was a pain to get.

Here is my thoughts.
Windows has most compatibility
Linux is Less bloated due to less drivers.

windows is LOCKED down but hard to mess up
Linux is open but easy to mess up

Think of Linux as a old Muscle Car
It may be harder to get running at first, but once you get it fine tuned it is faster than most modern day cars(windows).

I will be honest its not always easy to get it running right off the bat, some times it likes your hardware and will run it great, other times it wont like stuff like your Video card.

So I recommend Linux to people are willing to play around with it.
It is a lot of fun and is fully capable of being a primary OS, but if you are one of those "set it and forget it" kinds of people. just stick with windows until you feel a little more adventuresses.
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