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Sorry to hear that - I see you are in the UK so I wouldn't have been able to help, but in the future if you ever do decide to give MSI a chance, you can contact me and I can forward the UK office. Things have improved a lot in the past few months

As for the AM3+ issue... you guys pretty much hit it on the head. I can't discuss details due to NDA but since most of you guys have done the research, it's pretty much on par with the information I have too. If anything changes, I'll be sure to get that information out.

Rajiv Kothari
MSI PR Manager - North America
So will you honor the CPU warranty on BD since AMD is not supporting BD on AM3?
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post #132 of 169
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Originally Posted by msi-rajiv View Post
As for the AM3+ issue... you guys pretty much hit it on the head. I can't discuss details due to NDA but since most of you guys have done the research, it's pretty much on par with the information I have too. If anything changes, I'll be sure to get that information out.

Rajiv Kothari
MSI PR Manager - North America
Who hit the nail on the head and which nail are you talking about? There are conflicting conclusions here. Some still don't believe bulldozer will fit in a 941-pin AM3 socket. Some believe the first ones will, but the "enhanced" CPUs due out later won't. Some think it will fit the socket but the advanced features will not work on an AM3 board. Others believe that putting a bulldozer in will instantly fry the board. Which "information" is on par with the information you have exactly?

I'm assuming you can confirm the statement that the list of supported boards are compatible with all AM3+ CPUs as it is taken from the news section of your own company's US site.
Can you confirm the statement from the X-bit labs article that "all the advanced capabilities of chips based on Bulldozer micro-architecture, including technologies that improve power efficiency as well as Turbo Core 2.0 technology that can dynamically overclock CPUs by up to 500MHz." is true?

Also can you comment on whether or not more AM3 motherboard models will be added to the official supported list and if so which ones?
Edited by bardacuda - 4/6/11 at 7:43pm
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post #133 of 169
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So will you honor the CPU warranty on BD since AMD is not supporting BD on AM3?
Of course they won't honor the CPU warranty, it's not their product.

The only way that they could possibly honor it and replace the CPU is if it is proven to have been damaged due to the socket on the motherboard at stock clocks, voltages, etc.

Because we all know, overclocking automatically voids the warranty... heck, even using a third party heatsink on AMD CPUs voids the warranty.

But even then, I don't know how MSI will handle it, but that was just a thought of what they might do.
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See, there in lies the problem if MSI/Asus do not honor the warranty on your BD CPU. AMD could tell you to stuff it because you ran it on a "Non supported platform". That is one reason why this whole thing smells fishy.
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Bulldozer chips physically being able to fit in AM3 sockets is now officially confirmed, though it seemed like it had to be the case anyway with ASUS and MSI's announcements about their "white socket" boards.

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-conf...bulldozer-am3/
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See, there in lies the problem if MSI/Asus do not honor the warranty on your BD CPU. AMD could tell you to stuff it because you ran it on a "Non supported platform". That is one reason why this whole thing smells fishy.
How many people actually killed a CPU here? Even then, it's mostly due to some form of extreme overclocking, most users here won't ever have to worry about that. If the BD power draw kills the mobo, then Asus and MSI will have to replace the mobo, because they said the mobo supports BD.
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How many people actually killed a CPU here? Even then, it's mostly due to some form of extreme overclocking, most users here won't ever have to worry about that. If the BD power draw kills the mobo, then Asus and MSI will have to replace the mobo, because they said the mobo supports BD.
I tend to agree with that sentiment. Although it could cause problems for someone who happens to get a dud but I'm guessing those cases will be rare (but no less frustrating or infuriating for those that do end up in that situation) We'll have to hope in that case that AMD will be nice and let you return the processor as long as it was just a dud and not fried because of the board and you (or them once they get it back) can try it out in a certified board and it still does not work.
Edited by bardacuda - 4/7/11 at 2:07pm
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I tend to agree with that sentiment. Although it could cause problems for someone who happens to get a dud but I'm guessing those cases will be rare (but no less frustrating or infuriating for those that do end up in that situation) We'll have to hope in that case that AMD will be nice and let you return the processor as long as it was just a dud and not fried because of the board and you (or them once they get it back) can try it out in a certified board and it still does not work.
Nobody knows what will happen with BD on a AM3 board. What I am saying is that Asus and MSI will have to replace the CPU because AMD does not support that platform. So why would someone risk a mobo and a CPU just to say that "BD runs on MY AM3 board"? Seems allot of peeps here will.
Also, AMD has said ALREADY that AM3 running BD is not supported, so they will not "certify" those boards. A mobo with the AM3b socket is supported.
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Bulldozer chips physically being able to fit in AM3 sockets is now officially confirmed, though it seemed like it had to be the case anyway with ASUS and MSI's announcements about their "white socket" boards.

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-conf...bulldozer-am3/
About damn time that info got out, but they said too the pin out IS different.
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About damn time that info got out, but they said too the pin out IS different.
Yes but they also said "AM3+ CPUs will physically fit in an AM3 socket".

So there you have it. It fits and it works, why are you still going on about this?
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