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Originally Posted by TFL Replica View Post
That's not what I meant and you know it.
No offense man, but it did sound that way.
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Sorry but I don't get it. Will my 790FX GD 70 be able to handle bulldozer if they release a bios update for it?
    
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el gappo said he already spoke with Biostar, and claims that they will be releasing a BIOS update for AM3+ compatibility on 8xx series boards.
Odd because I contacted them and they told me in an email that the new CPUs will not work on AM3 motherboards.
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Odd because I contacted them and they told me in an email that the new CPUs will not work on AM3 motherboards.
Any chance you can post pics of this or a link if it's in another thread?
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The only explanation I can think of is AMD releasing a special AM3 socket version FX. But that seems as likely as alligators in Alaska
not as strange as it seems BD covers a lot of bases maybe the lower end bd's will be backwards compatible but the fx's might need a new board
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Originally Posted by Jesse^_^ View Post
If the AM3+ Bulldozer *Might* work on AM3 MSi Boards it will probaly blow up VRM's anyways...
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All of you fail to understand that say BD can go in a MSI 890fx the 8 core would most likely work fine. Now if you overclocked maybe not so much but I bet 90% of the people that buy MSI boards don't overclock them. You all act like so many people overclock a lot of people don't so all will most likely be fine. Have you ever seen a MSI 890fx or 790fx blow up with just a normal even 140W cpu on here no Its when people push 1.5 to 1.55 volts. I took my MSI 790fx heat sinks off made sure they where making contact well and have been running 1.56 volts in the bios for ever a year now. I don't no I'm not a brand guy but people fail to understand they only have to make the boards at the most take 140W overclocking is at your own risk if you lie to them or not when it blows up thats on you.
^ This.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the subject of whether BD will work in AM3 boards since the ASUS announcement. When I built this system back in November I didn't have much current hardware knowledge cuz I haven't built one in years and didn't do a major amount of extensive research. Anyway long story short I have since and was pretty disappointed to find out that AMD CPUs fall so short performance-wise compared to Intel coupled with the fact that Phenom II X6s seem to be the end of the line for this socket. I had expected to be able to eventually drop in a CPU and a couple nice beefy GPUs down the line and ride this AM3 train long into the future. I only just became aware of the VRM issue on MSI boards after stumbling across xd 1771's warning thread just less than a week ago and have since backed off my OC 80MHz and VCore to 1.43 and re-enabled Cool n' Quiet. It was running @3.58GHz/1.51V 24/7 for a couple months. Even though it's only a 95W X4 I didn't want to take any chances. So just wanted to give a big thanks to xd 1771. Thanks man!

Anyway sorry to write a book...just wanted to say that I've been trying to figure this all out lately and even started some threads in other forums to try and get to the bottom of it all and kudos to kvjavs for his clarifying post:
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Originally Posted by Kvjavs View Post
I'm getting sick of people talking about the pin count, saying how AM3b has an extra pin hole.

AMD has never officially released a PIN count. Only the sockets are to blame for this speculation. It has 1 extra contact, big deal.

I've said it many times:
Socket AM3 = 941 Contacts
Socket AM3b = 942 Contacts

Actual CPU for AM3 = 938 pins.

AMD has NEVER released an official pin count.
I have been trying to explain this to other ppl and if you look at the boards in MSI's announcement they all sport the regular old while AM3 sockets, not the new AM3r2/AM3b black sockets with the extra pin hole, so I don't believe this first wave of BDs will have more than 941 pins. Otherwise ASUS and MSI are just setting themselves up for a bunch of pissed off customers and RMAs.

AAAAnyways...to get to the original reason I wanted to post I just wanted to go back to what cbr600 said and point out that out of the first four BD FX processors, 3 of them are 95W and only the FX-8130P is 125W, which is still lower than some of the 140W Phenom IIs which, when not overclocked, seem to work fine with MSI's el-cheapo VRMs.

That coupled with the knowledge that mechanically fitting into the socket does not appear to be an issue I'd say things are looking a lot better for AM3 board owners. Even if it means that we will only have 3 BD processors to choose from without full functionality, it's a lot better than only being able to look forward to a 1090T as the pinnacle of performance...especially if these new CPUs are on par with Sandy Bridge. If that's the case who cares if future revisions require a certified AM3+ board with an extra pin hole? We've just extended the lives of our boards considerably.
Here's hoping the BIOS updates spread to other boards as well (like mine )

Edited by bardacuda - 4/3/11 at 6:46pm
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Does this say that the Processors are expected starting early this month or did I read it wrong?

http://event.msi.com/mb/am3+/
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Does this say that the Processors are expected starting early this month or did I read it wrong?

http://event.msi.com/mb/am3+/
Ooh I like how it says at the the bottom "This model list will be updated continuously"!

AFAIK June 11 is still the expected release date. It is worded pretty weird though.
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I thought i read an article on here a month or so ago that stated there would be a couple different BD chips and some of which went into am3 boards but were going to not be as powerful as the am3+ ones
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ITT: Denial.

I'm sure you people know more than ASUS and MSI.
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