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Just did a quick search and was going to look at ASUS sockets on the boards they claim AM3+ support on to see what their socket looked like, and I came across this article.

In it, they make a very good point for an explanation of the confusion caused by supposedly conflicting statements from board makers and AMD:

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Asus never mentions Bulldozer by name on its webpage and refers only to "extra performance offered by future AM3+ CPUs." Back when AMD released its original AM3 processors, a number of manufacturers (including Asus) took to labeling AM2 boards as offering AM3 support. We know AMD will continue to sell Phenom II processors after Bulldozer launches; Asus may simply be noting that an AM3+ Phenom II will fit into an AM3 socket without referring to Bulldozer at all. At present this seems the most likely scenario--it explains why Asus doesn't mention Bulldozer on its announcement page. Unfortunately it also invites confusion—AM3+ Phenom II's would end up working in AM3 boards while AM3+ Bulldozer's would be restricted to AM3+ boards.
Never thought about that before but it does seem very likely now that I think about it.

If you look at the comments section there's one from JF-AMD:
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By JF-AMD on Mar 22, 2011

No, there will not be an AM3 version of BD coming out later, those processors will be AM3+ only.
hmmm......
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^ good points and what i was thinking when reading this thread.

i think we will see some 6 core athlons with AM3+ specs. also maybe some really high clocked Phenom 2s, those will fit in AM3 and AM3+, but BD wont.
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Someone that knows what they're doing should examine the new BIOSes that have been released to see if they can harvest some info from there.
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Someone that knows what they're doing should examine the new BIOSes that have been released to see if they can harvest some info from there.
That is like WOW statement! Now I'm curious.
Surely some one here can do this?
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Someone that knows what they're doing should examine the new BIOSes that have been released to see if they can harvest some info from there.
Too bad you had to throw in that "someone that knows what they're doing" disclaimer. That excludes me.
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Just did a quick search and was going to look at ASUS sockets on the boards they claim AM3+ support on to see what their socket looked like, and I came across this article.

In it, they make a very good point for an explanation of the confusion caused by supposedly conflicting statements from board makers and AMD:



Never thought about that before but it does seem very likely now that I think about it.

If you look at the comments section there's one from JF-AMD:


hmmm......


Recently a poster here who was in touch with an ASUS rep (can't find the post) claimed they were told by said rep, that the bulldozer chips fit perfectly (ie they use up all the holes) on am AM3 motherboard. Whereas an AM3 chip does not.

It's pure speculation for what that extra hole on AM3+ is for. Perhaps for the "enhanced bulldozer" down the road.
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Recently a poster here who was in touch with an ASUS rep (can't find the post) claimed they were told by said rep, that the bulldozer chips fit perfectly (ie they use up all the holes) on am AM3 motherboard. Whereas an AM3 chip does not.

It's pure speculation for what that extra hole on AM3+ is for. Perhaps for the "enhanced bulldozer" down the road.
If this is the case.... WOW things just got flipped up side down.

TBH, buying a new MOBO first makes better sense. drop your PHIIX6 right in
and wait. Save up for the best BD. Then you get all the features (even if it is, just a smog pump).

This way you don't have to worry about popping VRMs.


I still like the Idea of reverse engineering a new driver to see what its all about.
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If this is the case.... WOW things just got flipped up side down.

TBH, buying a new MOBO first makes better sense. drop your PHIIX6 right in
and wait. Save up for the best BD. Then you get all the features (even if it is, just a smog pump).

This way you don't have to worry about popping VRMs.


I still like the Idea of reverse engineering a new driver to see what its all about.
Yep I just grabbed a Crosshair IV Formula for cheap for that very purpose
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Yep I just grabbed a Crosshair IV Formula for cheap for that very purpose
I was thinking a CH V
I want 990FX

If you think about it, we are due for the 990fx Release. All these people releasing AM3b. I hope MOBO'S(990s) come out soon so I can start this already.
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Any chance you can post pics of this or a link if it's in another thread?
I could post the email but there's a disclaimer in the email that I am not supposed to disclose any of the info.

edit: nvm apparently I deleted the email, send them off an email yourself... they answered in a day.
Edited by tout - 4/4/11 at 2:45am
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