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Alright, there are 2 aspects to RAM.
1: Speed. the Mhz they run at, pure and simple. Higher is better. Programs such as RAMDisks and VMs like more speed.
2: Timings. How long it takes for a request to go through. Lower is better. OSs and most games like lower timings.
There are 4 timings that matter most, and all are visible in CPU-Z on the memory page:
CAS# Latency (CL)
RAS# -> CAS# (tRCD)
RAS# Precharge (tRP)
Cycle Time (tRAS)
When you change one of the first 3, you change the 4th with it. The equation for this is:
(CL) + (tRDC) + (tRP) - 3 = (tRAS)
For example, 9-9-9-24, or 10-10-10-27, and so on.
There is also a 5th, but much less important timing called Command Rate (CR). 1T is faster, but 2T is more stable.
How you OC ram depends on what you are trying to do.
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How to overclock for speed:
You raise the RAM speed little by little until they system becomes unstable. When it does, you have two options available to you.
The first option is to loosen the timings a bit. If you started at 1600 10-10-10-27, and now you're at 1800 10-10-10-27, but it is unstable, you would try 1800 11-10-10-28, then 11-11-10-29, and so on until it becomes stable again. Then you start the process all over again, but make sure to write down the "stable points" so you have places to start again if you lose track.
The second option should only be used if loosening the timings is no longer helping, or you have to loosen the timings by a large amount. This option is to raise the RAM voltage. The maximum voltage you should use for DDR3 RAM is 1.65v. Your kit is at 1.5v stock, so this should leave you some room if you need it. Only raise the RAM voltage in very small amounts each time, the goal is to keep the voltage as low as possible while making the the RAM stable.
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How to overclock for timings:
You lower the timings one by one, testing each time to make sure it's stable. As an example, your set would go from 10-10-10-27 to 9-10-10-26 to 9-9-10-25 and so on until it becomes unstable. Once again, you have two options available to you.
The first option is to lower the speed of the RAM. Do not go below 1333Mhz. Lower the speed little by little, checking for stability each time. Once again, when you find "stable points", make sure to write them down, for the same reason. When lowering speed isn't helping, or you are down to 1333Mhz, go to option two.
The second option, again, is to raise the voltage. Like when overclocking for speed, only add a little bit at a time, and check for stability each time. Again, do not go over 1.65v.
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Testing your overclock:
Memtest86+ is a popular RAM stress test program that you can boot off CD and use. It will stress your RAM, and will crash if it is unstable.
Personally, I think the best way to test any OC is to just run your system as normal for a while. If it crashes, or throws errors, it isn't stable.
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My advice to you would be to find how far your RAM will go in either direction, then chose which one you want to use based on how the OS and programs respond and feel when using them.
Another alternative is to find a middle ground. Maybe leave your RAM at 1600, and see how low you can get your timings without reducing speed.

That was good info. I have seen others share that info, but not as well as you just did. Thanks. & +1Rep

Really, when I overclock mem I can see a significant change in benchmarks, but I never notice any change in OS or games. It is fast or fast based more on the CPU OC or the SSD! Too little diff for me to see anyway from mem OC...
Edited by PCWargamer - 9/7/12 at 7:05pm
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post #872 of 1230
Did a upgrade today, so here's a new validation link --> http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2504548

Strange that CPU-Z only sees 4 DIMM's, not all 8. And yes 32GB.... overkill? maybe but this is OCN tongue.gif
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Just got a new rig, here is my validation link: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2505014 thumb.gif
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post #874 of 1230
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Hi gents, this is how it looks right now.
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218. qiqi1021, 16GB DDR3, G.Skill, 1600MHz, 10-10-10-30
16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1867MHz, 9-11-9-24
219. johnvosh, 16GB DDR3, G.Skill, 1600MHz, 9-9-9-24
220. oogiesfaded, 16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1646MHz, 9-9-9-24
221. PCWargamer, 16GB Crucial, 1869MHz, 9-9-9-24
222. Zeus, 32GB DDR3, Corsair, 1333MHz, 9-9-9-24
223. coolhandluke41, 16GB DDR3, Samsung, 2200MHz, 10-12-11-26
224. willywill, 16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1648MHz, 9-9-9-24
225. BulletSponge, 16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1393MHz, 9-9-9-24
226. Mr357, 16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1600MHz , 9- 9- 9-24
227. Derko1, 16GB DDR3, G.Skill, 1600MHz, 8-8-8-24
228, stickymelon, 16GB DDR3, G.Skill, 2144MHz, 9-11-11-31
Sorry for the late reply but as you can imagine work is time consuming.

And general:
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38. KyadCK, 32GB DDR3, Corsair, 1500MHz, 9-9-9-24 (Main),
16GB DDR3, Kingston, 1330MHz, 9-9-9-24 (Laptop)
16GB DDR3, Corsair, 1600MHz, 9-0-9-24 (Backup),
16GB DDR3 (VMware ESXi Server)
tongue.gif If you post a validation link of your dog/cat with 16GB you will be disqualified.... tongue.gif

Anyway thanks for all your links and for joining. Have fun with your RAM and take it easy.
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tongue.gif If you post a validation link of your dog/cat with 16GB you will be disqualified.... tongue.gif

Don't be silly, my dog runs linux, she can't use CPU-Z tongue.gif

Edited by KyadCK - 9/9/12 at 11:48am
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2505612
16gb of G.skill ram at 2133mhz total i can run faster but dont need too.
    
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Added you everlast. Have fun with your RAM and the sweet MHz.
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Don't be silly, my dog runs linux, she can't use CPU-Z tongue.gif

nice dog biggrin.gifthumb.gif
    
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Added you everlast. Have fun with your RAM and the sweet MHz.
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Yeah second that - nice pic. Wait some weeks then I will bust back: My dual socket server sheep with SSD in Raid 10 and 128GB RAM! (Sadly not overclocked redface.gif)
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