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The only concern I really have is with gaming. Since it's an IPS panel I should see very minor delays compared to a TN panel, I play a lot of shooters so this may be a slight issue.

Does anyone know the cheapest place to get them or should I just buy direct from dell?
Response time =/= delay.

That is called input lag. The dell U2311 IIRC has a pretty low input lag. Lower than a lot of TN panels.

Response time affects ghosting, and frankly... it shouldn't be too visible on any modern IPS monitors.

A great example of this. My secondary TN is a 1080p LG, and it's 2ms. It has tons of ghosting and tons of input lag despite being a TN.
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post #22 of 71
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Depends on what you are doing though. The U2410 is an upgrade in most cases, but for most, it's not worth the price.
Right. The U2410 is more suitable if you AREN'T spending so much time gaming, since it has a higher resolution (bit more work area when not gaming), higher input lag, and is more adept at wide color gamut rather than standard (which many e-IPS type monitors are). For some games 16:9 is the better option as the game will shift to provide a slightly wider FOV, and the U2311H/U2211H are 16:9, plus with lower input lag makes them both very suitable for gaming.

Note that both the U2711 and U3011 are H-IPS.
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Right. The U2410 is more suitable if you AREN'T spending so much time gaming, since it has higher input lag and is more adept at wide color gamut rather than standard (which many e-IPS type monitors are). For some games 16:9 is the better option as the game will shift to provide a slightly wider FOV, and the U2311H/U2211H are 16:9, plus with lower input lag makes them both very suitable for gaming.
Interesting. I tweak all my games to change the FOV so that wouldn't be a concern anyway (unless it's a garbage console port).

Regardless, unless I can do some parental birthday coercing I'm probably going to end up with the 23".

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Response time =/= delay.

That is called input lag. The dell U2311 IIRC has a pretty low input lag. Lower than a lot of TN panels.

Response time affects ghosting, and frankly... it shouldn't be too visible on any modern IPS monitors.

A great example of this. My secondary TN is a 1080p LG, and it's 2ms. It has tons of ghosting and tons of input lag despite being a TN.
Right, I understand that the circuitry has a lot more to do with performance compared to the panels' ability to update.
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Does anyone know the cheapest place to get them or should I just buy direct from dell?
Direct from dell, they usually have sales.
Right now its $279 but it will jump back up to $350 when that special is over.

A few weeks ago it was $250.
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Interesting. I tweak all my games to change the FOV so that wouldn't be a concern anyway (unless it's a garbage console port).

Regardless, unless I can do some parental birthday coercing I'm probably going to end up with the 23".
Most games, console port or not, don't allow you to change the FOV. Some do though.

And some ports allow it, such as BC2.

As said earlier a few times, the U2311 also has lower input lag, and might even be a better option for gaming.

I disagree with the opinion that 1920x1080 would be better since it has a wider field of view though. Sure, the wider field of view is there, but it's minimal. The extra 120 pixels of height add just a tiny amount of detail into the image, making it look prettier. And you can run 1080p in 1200p, making the whole 1080p argument useless..

But yah, both are good choices.
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Most games, console port or not, don't allow you to change the FOV. Some do though.
I mostly play Source engine games, which are insanely customizable (as I'm sure you're aware, you kicked my butt last time I played TF2 with you tehee). It's not that big of an issue anyway .
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Also, I forgot to mention that there is a downside to the U2410: 16:10 is not good for multimedia (black borders, for example). Keep that in mind.
    
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Also, I forgot to mention that there is a downside to the U2410: 16:10 is not good for multimedia (black borders, for example). Keep that in mind.
You mean, there will be some unused pixels? That, when the lights are off, will be indistinguishable from the bezel? Oh no, we wouldn't want THAT to happen.

/sarcasm

Movies are usually shot in 2.35:1. Chances are that if he's going to watch a movie it's going to have black borders even on a 16:9 monitor.
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You mean, there will be some unused pixels? That, when the lights are off, will be indistinguishable from the bezel? Oh no, we wouldn't want THAT to happen.

/sarcasm

Movies are usually shot in 2.25:1. Chances are that if he's going to watch a movie it's going to have black borders even on a 16:9 monitor.
I don't understand the black border complaint either, but just for the heck of it:

Most TV series are 16:9 though.
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You mean, there will be some unused pixels? That, when the lights are off, will be indistinguishable from the bezel? Oh no, we wouldn't want THAT to happen.

/sarcasm

Movies are usually shot in 2.35:1. Chances are that if he's going to watch a movie it's going to have black borders even on a 16:9 monitor.
Yeah... except for when you want to watch movies during daylight. I have a 16:10 monitor and it's very annoying at times.
    
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