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Hi
To begin with i want to say sorry in advance as i feel the questions i'm going to ask are stupid in your eyes.

I've had my rig for a couple of years now when i just wanted to build a PC for the sake of knowing how to do it and as a hobby. Recently i decided to OC my Phenom 940 from 3 to 3.4 using stock heatsink. I'm now wanting to upgrade and have heard water cooling is best. I'm interested in the H50/70 as my normal usage temps hover aroung 46 degrees celsius and 50ish when watching videos. i want to go higher on my OC but need temps to be reduced.
so here we go...
1) Which one is better value for money?
2) how does the water cooling work in these? as in the videos i have watched, none of them seem to connect pipes to radiators from a reservoir. are they already in the radiator when they are bought?
3) are the H50/70 suitable for my rig? i have the ASUS M3N78-PRO motherboard, Phenom 940, Corsair dominator ram with heatsink and the Gigabyte Poseidon case which i dont know the exact model of so i'll post a picture up of it.
Case: http://www.mustardgiga.co.jp/2008/pr...eidon-P07b.jpg
Thank you
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Water cooling (H50 and H70) isn't necessarily always the best bang for the buck. Air cooling is usually better for lower priced setups. You can have pretty good budget cooling from the Hyper 212+, or go with the high-end NH-D14. The NH-D14 can sometimes beat the H70, too.
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yh thanks for the help i was considering the akasa venom, corsair a70 and the dark night but i wasnt sure about space in my rig.
but the man thing im confused with is how the H50/70 work.
if u have a custom built water cooling system, u need a radiator, reservoir and pump --> main stuff. but in the H50/70 are they all built in?
basically if i was to get the H50/70, do i only need that? or do i need some other extra stuff like a reservoir or pump.
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Originally Posted by A14M3D View Post
yh thanks for the help i was considering the akasa venom, corsair a70 and the dark night but i wasnt sure about space in my rig.
but the man thing im confused with is how the H50/70 work.
if u have a custom built water cooling system, u need a radiator, reservoir and pump --> main stuff. but in the H50/70 are they all built in?
basically if i was to get the H50/70, do i only need that? or do i need some other extra stuff like a reservoir or pump.
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H50/H70 will come with everything you need. I was able to get 4.0GHz clocks on both my Core i5-760 and my Core i7-870 with my Corsair H70.

Yes, it should fit in your case where the 120mm fan in the rear is located. Mounting on the back of the case is not an option as the H50/H70 is a sealed loop system, so you can't run the tubes through your water cooling ports.

I was able to get lower temps out of my Corsair than when I was air cooling with the Cooler Master Hyper 212+, but not by much. I preferred the look of the water cooling setup over the massive heatsink and fan.
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H70 will be a good choice for you if you want to upgrade for a simple water cooling setup. But like already mentioned, There are air cooling that can do the same or maybe even better. I'll just speak for the H50. I use 4.0Ghz 24/7 with temps on high 30's on idle and 78 tops on full load. I want to hit 4.2Ghz but it's already touch the 80's so I'm good for now.
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post #7 of 10
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thank you everyone for your replies
so basically its an all-in-one - but just for cpu cant cool anything else with it which is fine for me.
although my case has a 120mm fan slot at the back of the case, the PSU is just above it. will the H50/70 still fit or will the PSU come in the way?

and what are the performance and temp differences between the H50 and H70? if i was to add another fan on the H50 for Push/Pull, would it similar to the H70?
just asking because there is a big price difference so if i was to add a fan to the H50,it would be cheaper
Edited by A14M3D - 4/2/11 at 2:17am
post #8 of 10
Check out the review of the H70 from PCPER.com:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1016

He mentions that the H70 features a radiator almost double the size of the H50, a low profile pump, and a larger copper cold plate. Also, notice in the testing that the H70 was a good 5-6 deg lower temp at idle compared to the H50, but at load, they were pretty much identical.

I think the bigger radiator may come into play when ambient temps are a bit higher... when your room gets warm, the larger radiator will likely help keep temps down a few degrees.
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post #9 of 10
If I understand it correctly, the advantage to the H70 over H50 is that the H70 is better with lower RPM fans than the H50. Sticking high power fans on either will likely yield similar results.
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thanks everyone for your help it is much appreciated!
i have made my final decision which is to buy the CM 212+ reason being its an awesome air cooler and only £15!! which is one fifth of the price of a H70 and it has as good cooling. But ive mainly gone for this because im hoping for the new build this summer with i7 sandy bridge where the H70 will be worth its money, but for the phenom 940 i think £70 is way too much.
thanks again for all your replies and help
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