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No no, it's fine, I really did appreciate the concern.



Yeah, I've just been checking those ones out. The Clevos I was looking at before were X7200-based models and they were... Well, yeah. A bit more expensive because they use desktop parts... Do you think the 2720QM is getting over the 2630QM? Do these laptops allow overclocking? Does Sandybridge? I'm a bit out of the loop.
Yeah the desktop parts using models aren't things I really recommend at all unless you got money to burn or can't make an mATX build of similar power yourself.

Not really since they're within .2GHz and no change in cache size. I don't think SandyBridge as a rule will allow OCing but I haven't heard anything about that for the laptops. I will tell you that I doubt it will be possible.

Where OCing matters to me with a laptop from my experience is the GPU. That's the only time I saw changes in gaming performance.

EDIT: The 2720 will have a higher Turbo so that might make a difference but I'm not sure how much and if it's really worth it. I'd say if it was only 50USD or less to move up to it then why not?
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Yeah the desktop parts using models aren't things I really recommend at all unless you got money to burn or can't make an mATX build of similar power yourself.

Not really since they're within .2GHz and no change in cache size. I don't think SandyBridge as a rule will allow OCing but I haven't heard anything about that for the laptops. I will tell you that I doubt it will be possible.

Where OCing matters to me with a laptop from my experience is the GPU. That's the only time I saw changes in gaming performance.

EDIT: The 2720 will have a higher Turbo so that might make a difference but I'm not sure how much and if it's really worth it. I'd say if it was only 50USD or less to move up to it then why not?
What you say is very true, it's consistent with what I've read but the site recommended earlier (xoticpc.com) seems to have an overclocking service for $75, what do you think they may be doing?

You're right about the spec difference but the price difference in the model I'm looking at is $160 so that's more significant, still massively less than the $350 increase Alienware were giving...

It seems I've wasted a vast amount of time with this misguided idea that there was a good value branded laptop out there! I should have come here to ask about custom setups before! Thanks to all involved so far.
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What you say is very true, it's consistent with what I've read but the site recommended earlier (xoticpc.com) seems to have an overclocking service for $75, what do you think they may be doing?

You're right about the spec difference but the price difference in the model I'm looking at is $160 so that's more significant, still massively less than the $350 increase Alienware were giving...

It seems I've wasted a vast amount of time with this misguided idea that there was a good value branded laptop out there! I should have come here to ask about custom setups before! Thanks to all involved so far.
I have no idea but they could be talking about GPU or maybe the mobile SBs have the ability to mess with the BCLK. I'd really call them and check on that first.

I don't know how well Turbo2.0 works but if the 2720 was actually going to spend a good time near its 3.3GHz Turbo then I'd even say 160 might be worth it but I'm again doubting it will.

It's not that you wasted your time. It's that I would never count Dell (they own Alienware) as a value company. Asus usually is decently priced but at the upper end of power laptops they do tend to throw add-ons (that I don't find useful) in and raise the price. Shopping around is the best thing. If you were willing to go down to 15inches and even have your own copy of windows I'd show you a place to get a few Clevos for cheaper. It comes with Ubuntu too.
     
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I have no idea but they could be talking about GPU or maybe the mobile SBs have the ability to mess with the BCLK. I'd really call them and check on that first.

I don't know how well Turbo2.0 works but if the 2720 was actually going to spend a good time near its 3.3GHz Turbo then I'd even say 160 might be worth it but I'm again doubting it will.

It's not that you wasted your time. It's that I would never count Dell (they own Alienware) as a value company. Asus usually is decently priced but at the upper end of power laptops they do tend to throw add-ons (that I don't find useful) in and raise the price. Shopping around is the best thing. If you were willing to go down to 15inches and even have your own copy of windows I'd show you a place to get a few Clevos for cheaper. It comes with Ubuntu too.
I wouldn't call Dell/Alienware a value company either but part of what makes it valuable to me is the fact it's Alienware - that brand I've drooled over since I was 12. I used to make up $16,000 machines and tell all my friends I'd get one some day! But yeah, at the end of the day I want performance over aesthetics and the Clevos are really doing it for me now...

I really can't come down to 15" as my current laptop is a 16" and I want the extra space to watch movies, play games, etc. Do you know if the Clevo P170HM supports Optimus? That's the one I'm tending towards right now. There's no way I can get a GTX 460M over a GTX 485M at virtually the same price.
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You do realise you will have huge customs and tax charges when you ship one in from a retailer? Could be looking at upto 300 gbp with laptops like this.
    
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You do realise you will have huge customs and tax charges when you ship one in from a retailer? Could be looking at upto 300 gbp with laptops like this.
Sorry, I should probably update my location but I'm not in the UK right now, I'll be having it shipped to Hong Kong.
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I have no idea but they could be talking about GPU or maybe the mobile SBs have the ability to mess with the BCLK. I'd really call them and check on that first.

I don't know how well Turbo2.0 works but if the 2720 was actually going to spend a good time near its 3.3GHz Turbo then I'd even say 160 might be worth it but I'm again doubting it will.

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Mind telling me ? I am shopping around for a np8130/8150 right now and the cheapest ive found is xoticpc and lpc digital
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Mind telling me ? I am shopping around for a np8130/8150 right now and the cheapest ive found is xoticpc and lpc digital
I don't know if they'll be cheaper than xoticpc since I haven't checked against their prices but you should check out system76 since those are the top two models offered by them. I guess Sager noticed they had competition because they lowered their prices I think to move within $50. There's a bit less customization options with buying from system76 but it's just another place to shop around.
     
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I don't know if they'll be cheaper than xoticpc since I haven't checked against their prices but you should check out system76 since those are the top two models offered by them. I guess Sager noticed they had competition because they lowered their prices I think to move within $50. There's a bit less customization options with buying from system76 but it's just another place to shop around.
I see thanks, and as far as contributing to this thread, I would go with the sager, best bang for the buck
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