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Why are you looking at the model that uses desktop parts?
The NP8170 is what you should compare with the M17x.
hehehe my bad.......i just clicked the first 17" lol
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hehehe my bad.......i just clicked the first 17" lol
I don't doubt Sager's quality but i still think a desktop CPU in a laptop is a bad idea. Plus, the mobile SBs are plenty fast. I would figure 2 years for them at the least unless you absolutely have to have the fastest thing every generation.
     
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I don't doubt Sager's quality but i still think a desktop CPU in a laptop is a bad idea. Plus, the mobile SBs are plenty fast. I would figure 2 years for them at the least unless you absolutely have to have the fastest thing every generation.
well im thinking mainly having this thing for 3 years at least.......we are downsizing our family items making room for a 3rd baby so a laptop is now a must purely for space reasons....... so as long as i can build a laptop that will perform well for 3+ years till we move into a bigger house ill be happy!!

i also like the fact that those sager's can have better thermal compound put on them.............i better change my title up on this thread LOL
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I LOVE my m17x, however it's an R2. I can tell you though I wouldn't trade this 1200p RGB LED display for a sandy bridge and a washed out 120hz screen.

edit: If the screen isn't that important to you, or you prefer the features of the R3's scree, the crossfire setup they offer is extremely powerful and a great pairing with sandy bridge. I can't speak to the Sager, but the build quality of the Alienware only leaves a couple of things to be desired:

1. Display hinges seem to have about an inch (at the top of the display) of rotation in which they're a little bit squishier than the rest of the movement. I'm not sure if this is intended to make the display easier to open, but it's been like that since day one. I think I'd prefer it to be a bit stiffer all the way through.

2. The power connector is pretty pathetic. It's small, and after not much use will begin to wiggle. I feel like I have to be extremely careful not to damage the port on the computer.

3. I'd LOVE to have a chicklet keyboard, but after getting used to this one it's not so bad. At first, coming from using only Apple chicklet keyboards, I would the skin around my fingers literally going underneath neighboring keys, I never had an incident where it was a problem, but it was a concern at first until I learned how to type properly on this keyboard, now I can do the same speed on this one as an Apple keyboard.

4. The trackpad is pathetic, really. It's not recessed whatsoever, so you are unable to tell when you're actually touching it without actually looking down. It might seem like a nitpick, but after being able to orient myself on the recessed trackpad of a macbook pro, this was an annoyance; albeit a minor one.
As for the plusses:

1. TEN KEY IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST

2. This is the most beautiful display I've ever seen in my life, wouldn't trade it for anything, everything else, including 27" IPS Cinema Displays look completely washed out. Next to my matte 17" Macbook Pro, the red on the Netflix homepage looks grey on the mac and retina burning on the Alienware.

3. As far as retina burning goes, the color profile installed by default seems to be set up by a 12 year old. Immediate calibration is an absolute must, however the tools required for this are readily available and extremely lightweight, it's a one-time deal to fix it, and once fixed... oh good golly, you have to see it to believe it. (this point may or may not apply to the R3 model, I'm not sure about the quality of it's screen)


Overall I have not much bad to say about the Alienware, I think you'd be happy with it, though I couldn't say if you'd be happier with the Sager.
Edited by un1b4ll - 4/2/11 at 12:52pm
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I LOVE my m17x, however it's an R2. I can tell you though I wouldn't trade this 1200p RGB LED display for a sandy bridge and a washed out 120hz screen.
how long have you had it? how do i know if im getting an R2 or R3? or is todays model the r3? how many hours a day do you put on it?
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how long have you had it? how do i know if im getting an R2 or R3? or is todays model the r3? how many hours a day do you put on it?
6 months of ownership now...

You'd be getting an R3 if you bought new, if you found a system on the dell outlet or elsewhere with a i7 7xxx series, that's an R2.

It's powered on about 10 hours a day, in heavy usage anywhere from 2 to 8 depending on the day.

Also, if you're thinking about getting the Clevo x7200 based Sager, the one with the desktop i7, I'd recommend against it. There's an abundance of reasons why you wouldn't want to carry around a 130 watt processor on top of your other components, I wouldn't trust it for a full 3 years even though the performance would be fine. Plus with the new sandy bridge CPUs, you'd have to get a 6 core in the Sager to guarantee better performance, that's how good the new sandy bridge is. I would confidently recommend not getting a Clevo x7200 based system, unless you were going to drive dual gtx485s with a 6 core i7, and not intending to do it for long.
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He fell for the "shiny toy" trap.

Well OP if you have any questions about tech ask them but I can't do much else.
     
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He fell for the "shiny toy" trap.

Well OP if you have any questions about tech ask them but I can't do much else.
huh?
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I think I'm going to be getting a Sager eventually. I just sold my M1730.

A guy I work with has a M17x R1. It's horrible. I hate the chassis. The screen is so reflective I can't see anything when I try to use it.

Will never go Dell/Alienware again.

I might look into the MSI and Asus laptops more.
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well i was also looking at the same thing you are faced with and after using a friends AW i bought sager. this thing is plenty fast and not nearly as flashy looking, do you really need a rainbow colored glowing keyboard? its like a ricer laptop....
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