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Anyone know why when I set my tv at 120Hz refresh rate it ends up looking like a very cheap production movie? Like they filmed it with a video camera.

It's very hard to explain. It's not immersive, it feels like a constant reminder that these are actors on a production. Anyone else know the phenomenon of which I speak?

EDIT: YES! someone said soap opera. That's exactly right. It makes expensive movies look like a cheap soap opera.
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Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
Anyone know why when I set my tv at 120Hz refresh rate it ends up looking like a very cheap production movie? Like they filmed it with a video camera.

It's very hard to explain. It's not immersive, it feels like a constant reminder that these are actors on a production. Anyone else know the phenomenon of which I speak?
The unnatural looking movements are the result of the fake 120hz. Fake 120hz interpolates frames between the actual source frames. This often results in errors in the movement, which makes some movements look unnatural. TOO fast.
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My only comment on this thread is: I didnt realize OCN was sooo into soap opera's. For like the first two pages I couldnt figure out what that meant until someone finally explained it.
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<----- Insert random comment about soap operas. Derp!

Just wait and see what it looks like in the end. You guys are so afraid of change. You remind me of my dad going on and on about how nothing sounds better than vinyl records and a stereo setup. He thinks lossless digital audio and 5.1 or 7.1 sound is all newfangled nonsense...

I do agree that sometimes ultra high HD video looks "too real". It doesn't feel like a movie. But then again have you guys seen Blu-ray videos of The Blue Planet or Planet Earth documentaries? I would love to see nature documentaries in even higher quality HD.
    
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i can't see avatar having a sequel
avatar wasn't even that good, i mean the visuals were awesome but the plot dragged on for more then half the movie, i think it was just too extend the movie but it could have fit in a 90 minute film.

0, an 60 fps
I want to know what happens to Norm. His Avatar was killed in the final battle, yet he decides to stay on the planet. You see him standing there with a mask on in the final scene watching the humans leave. With all the extra humans gone and no infrastructure where is he going to get his air to survive? Is there just going to be enough leftover air to let him live as a human on that planet for the rest of his life?
    
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60 is still kinda low, he should make it 600, because that's the threshold possible to see with human eye.

"Soap Opera" look does in fact more reseblme the way we actually see IRL, I always watch movies at 120Hz, cos 24 fps is simply not realistic enough.
Edited by Heret|c - 4/3/11 at 12:55pm
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60 is still kinda low, he should make it 600, because that's the threshold possible to see with human eye.

"Soap Opera" look does in fact more reseblme the way we actually see IRL, I always watch movies at 120Hz, cos 24 fps is simply not realistic enough.
the retardery levels in this thread are through the roof. I'm gonna have to take a breath outside so I don't rage.
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60 is still kinda low, he should make it 600, because that's the threshold possible to see with human eye.

"Soap Opera" look does in fact more reseblme the way we actually see IRL, I always watch movies at 120Hz, cos 24 fps is simply not realistic enough.
You do realize that most blu-rays are only 24 fps right? Also, many blu-ray players only output up to 60 Hz.
    
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You do realize that most blu-rays are only 24 fps right? Also, many blu-ray players only output up to 60 Hz.
Have you been living in the woods for the past 5 years and never heard of 120Hz TV?
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Have you been living in the woods for the past 5 years and never heard of 120Hz TV?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Codecs

Are you so clueless that you think you always have a 120Hz signal just because you have a 120 Hz screen?

Think about it in terms of FPS in a video game. If your graphics card can only deliver 40 FPS in a game are you playing at 120 FPS just because you have a 120 Hz monitor?

Why is it any different with a Blu-ray player? The Blu-ray DVDs are almost all 24 FPS, some are 29 FPS. There are some 720p videos that are 60 FPS but they are very rare.

Most blu-ray players only output 60Hz max.

So please tell me how you can view a movie at a true 120 frames per second when the source is 24 frames per second and the player can only output 60 max...

Your screen may be a 120 or even 240 Hz but it's actually displaying the same image more than once because the source is not that high of Hz.
    
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