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Are you so clueless that you think you always have a 120Hz signal just because you have a 120 Hz screen?

Think about it in terms of FPS in a video game. If your graphics card can only deliver 40 FPS in a game are you playing at 120 FPS just because you have a 120 Hz monitor?

Why is it any different with a Blu-ray player? The Blu-ray DVDs are almost all 24 FPS, some are 29 FPS. There are some 720p videos that are 60 FPS but they are very rare.

Most blu-ray players only output 60Hz max.

So please tell me how you can view a movie at a true 120 frames per second when the source is 24 frames per second and the player can only output 60 max...

Your screen may be a 120 or even 240 Hz but it's actually displaying the same image more than once because the source is not that high of Hz.
Nope. The source is 24hz, yes, but some TVs have this fake 120hz effect, where they interpolate or create motion blur between the frames so that they essentially have more frames. This often makes the image seem too fast, unnatural, and fake, since there are some errors in the movement. My TV is like this. It also results in huge input lag while gaming with it.
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We'll get used to it. That "movie" feel is just something ingrained in us from years of watching at that FPS. Once we get used to true 60 plus films, shot and processed at that speed and not just interpolated from 24 stock, we'll probably hate watching old movies.
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Nope. The source is 24hz, yes, but some TVs have this fake 120hz effect, where they interpolate or create motion blur between the frames so that they essentially have more frames. This often makes the image seem too fast, unnatural, and fake, since there are some errors in the movement. My TV is like this. It also results in huge input lag while gaming with it.
It's still not a true 120 Hz. You aren't seeing 120 distinct images per second because the source only has 24 per second. Sure there are methods to blend and smooth the frames but it's never going to exceed 24 fps if the source is 24 fps.
    
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It's still not a true 120 Hz. You aren't seeing 120 distinct images per second because the source only has 24 per second. Sure there are methods to blend and smooth the frames but it's never going to exceed 24 fps if the source is 24 fps.
Nobody ever said true. You claimed that we were only seeing 24FPS with 120hz TVs. That is mostly wrong. The source is 24FPS but the thing on the TV is not. However, I don't like fake 120hz. Looks horrible.
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post #125 of 177
go for 200fps, it'll be like real life lolz
but in a picture box
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I HATE 120hz motion correction on with regular movies, 24fps has that smooth dream feeling, anything over that looks fake and unlike film. I think it would be a big mistake to make anything for cinema viewing to be 60fps. 23.997 to stay, boo to you 60fps.

Film has a very noticable look and feel with motion, if you have a 120hz set turn on the full motion correction and compare to it being off when watching a movie, it looks so fake, turns even the best actors into just normal people. It's kinda a pet peeve of mine. DOWN WITH 60fps!!
    
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I won't judge until I see a high frame rate film with good production quality. I'm sure they can make it look correct.
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Is it weird that I have had the movie since it was released on Blu-Ray, but haven't watched it regardless of all the hype around it?

Anyway good. I'm glad we're shooting smoother frames, the difference will be clearly noticeable and to be honest I wasn't too happy with the action scenes in most movies looking choppy.
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It's still not a true 120 Hz. You aren't seeing 120 distinct images per second because the source only has 24 per second. Sure there are methods to blend and smooth the frames but it's never going to exceed 24 fps if the source is 24 fps.
But the image processor inside the TV fills in the extra frames, so you are seeing the content 120Hz displayed on your screen. Those extra frames are not as good, because it's just an average of 2 frames, but just like in games, I would rather take higher framerate over graphic quality.

If James Cameroon would record his movie in 120 fps it would be amazing, because then there would be no need for your TV to make up frames and image would be incredibly realistic.

I applaud James Cameroon for pioneering this move, I don't game below 60 fps, so to I shouldn't be subjected to watching low framerates movies any more. 24 fps must die.
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James Cameron acts like he's > everyone else. F that guy...3D sucks! Just in case anyone wondered what I thought..
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