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Originally Posted by sbeast View Post
i thought the human eye couldnt really see a difference past 32fps?
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This is somewhat false. Our eyes can see sharpness and clarity that high fps can bring.
It's not just somewhat false, it's completely false. Cap one of your games at 32 fps and play it, then uncap it and play it and tell me you don't notice a difference. The Air Force did testing a while back demonstrating that frames as quick as 1/220th of a second are noticeable.

Edit: Indeed. Bluckduck3285, the testing I mentioned was in the source you just added.
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Just keep it at 24fps, anything over is pointless. James Cameron spends what, 15 years developing Avatar, and it turns out to be the only Blu-Ray sitting on my shelf collecting dust. What format would these movies be in? I can't imagine being able to compress these to DVD size and keep the quality.
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oh god. was the first avatar not bad enough James?

Make another film as good as T1 and you'll replace Aronofsky as my favorite director.
Ya how about Time Terminator. Pocahontas meets an unstoppable killing machine that time travels and travels back in the past and slaughters all the white people who are murdering indians. Then the terminator goes nuts and starts slaughtering everybody so the indians and white men gang up against it and destroy it. Then everybody hugs and forgives each other. But a little indian kid still decides he wants to build a robot arm as a school science project. Setting up the sequel. Which is about a geeky new york kid who puts computer chips in manequins and saves the little botique shop from the big evil sacks fifth avenue. Which then becomes pissed off the evil white man tried to hurt the poor old lady so it designs itself as a unstoppable killing machine and reads pocohontis.

The movie tanks at the box office and he then designs a system to extort more money than the movie made at the box office from 5,000 people who just wanted to download it on the internet to laugh at how stupid it was. BTW the extortion operation is called operation butthurt locker.
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I'd just like to point out some uncommon knowledge to those interested in frame rates and movies and what not.

When you work with Prosumer cameras, there are shutters speeds much like in still cameras, and again much like still cameras the higher the shutter speed, the lower the motion blur.

Now when using a video camera correctly to shoot, you want the Shutter speed to be double (or some multiple of double) the frame rate. So when using camera at 24fps you'd only need a shutter speed of 1/48 seconds. So the shutter stays open pretty long getting more information and adding a more natural motion blur.

However with framerates like 60 you have to use a shutter speed of 1/120 seconds, so the shutter is open for a short time, producing a rather unnatural blur free series of frames.

So in conclusion: 24fps is actually more "natural" than 60fps.

Hope this helps!
However, this applies to film and not digital sensors, correct? Film exposures get imprinted with more of the image due to longer exposures.
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I thought it was fairly creative.
In which way? It's all been done before.
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oh god. was the first avatar not bad enough James?

Make another film as good as T1 and you'll replace Aronofsky as my favorite director.
This this this. How Avatar was the highest grossing movie of all time is beyond me. They should try to use this tech on a movie franchise worth a darn, not Fern Gully: The live action movie.
    
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Good for smoother movies, but sad its going to be for an uncreative movie series
This. Avatar was a terrible movie. Pretty colors, but terrible movie.
    
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Higher FPS film sources make it feel like you are at a live sports event.
And so being more like a live event somehow looks less realistic? I'm just not getting it here.
    
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horray for better quality.
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