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I've seen benchmarks lately in a British magazine called CustomPC in an overclocking instruction article and it showed benchmarks in BFBC2 running an overclocked Core i5 2500K (4.2GHz I believe) with a Radeon 6870 and marked it's avg and max frame rates and then did the same for an overclocked X6 1090T (3.875 GHz) and same GFX.

The Intel part beat the AMD by 17FPS?!?!?! Does the CPU really make that much of a difference? Does the 1090T really suck that bad in gaming?

Thoughts?
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post #2 of 200
The 17FPS might not be noticeable i.e. a difference between 200 and 217 FPS or etc.
The i5 2500k is a newer architecture than Phenom II and on 32nm, of course it would win. Also it's clocked a bit faster. Slightly unfair comparison.
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They were also comparing slower architecture (AMD) to the newer faster architecture (i5). Plus the faster chip was overclocked further than the slower one was.

Not a very fair comparison honestly.

But yes, the Intel chips are noticeably faster in SOME games. If you're already getting playable framerates in all of your games, then getting even more isn't going to be noticeable anyway.
 
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the 1090T does leave a lot to be desired in my Gaming Rig, which is why it's going on Server duty once Bulldozer comes out.
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Apparently it does, hahaha. The biggest reason people put out is that games these days do not really use more than four cores. However, BFBC2 is an exception, which clearly uses all my six cores (it is theorised to be able to use up to eight cores). BF3 will probably be just as optimised (or more) for multi-threading. The major factor however is the architectural differences between Intel and AMD that end up making Intel's offerings significantly faster per clock cycle. Add in the factor that more than four cores is unnecessary for games (at the moment) and you just (currently!) can't beat an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU.

Of course, then there's the extreme overclockability of an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU. A Core i5-2500K at 4.0GHz beats a 1090T at 4.0GHz but add to the equation that the Core i5-2500K can probably hit 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz with ease whereas the 1090T has no chance and...you can do the math!

A lot of people have observed that even a 1090T at 4.0GHz has bottlenecked the likes of a Radeon 5870/6870/6970 (or the NVIDIA counterparts) whereas the Intel Sandy Bridge CPU at the same clock speed or even less has unleashed full GPU usage throughout gaming sessions.

Personally, if the Asus promise that my motherboard will support AMD Bulldozer AM3+ CPUs via a simple BIOS update follows through, I'll be hoping AMD Bulldozer can offer some high competitive edge. An eight-core one that beats Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs for gaming and rendering would be my (current) holy grail and I would definitely buy one such CPU. If however it fails to do this, then I will hold out until either Intel Ivy Bridge or whatever comes after that. It's not news that Intel is about two steps ahead of AMD and not accepting it is just lying to oneself. Hopefully AMD Bulldozer can even the score, though.
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The 17FPS might not be noticeable i.e. a difference between 200 and 217 FPS or etc.
Oh and this^. Too many benchmark related erections with little visual enjoyment.
    
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I knew certain CPUs might increase frame rates by a few here and there but 17 FPS is a major jump. That's like the difference between a GTX 560 and 580 (maybe I'm just guessing).
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I knew certain CPUs might increase frame rates by a few here and there but 17 FPS is a major jump. That's like the difference between a GTX 560 and 580 (maybe I'm just guessing).
Depends, what's the relative increase (in percentage)?
That's the question. Like was said above - 200 FPS to 217 FPS has zero visible difference. 13 FPS to 30 FPS is a whole different story, though!
    
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It really depends on the game.

A properly overclocked Thuban is one heck of a gamer (and by properly I mean good CPU-NB and CPU overclock), but the Intel chip will usually bet it out at the same clock speed. An games that are not multi-threaded the i5 or i7 will almost always provide better frames.

World of Warcraft is one of the games where the difference between Intel and AMD is MUCH higher than you would expect.
    
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My 1055T at 4GHz is never a bottleneck...
 
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