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x8 x8 vs x16 x16 is like a 3.5% performance loss on the old 1156 chipset/AMD rigs.

Sandy Bridge has the same amount of bandwidth on a x8 lane as 1366/AMD has on a x16 lane.. SB was built with PCIE 3.0 bandwidth, but only supports 2.0 at x16 or x8 x8 possibly because of Intel wanting their high end system to have something over their mainstream socket.

I'm running x8 x8 x4 currently on a $180 SB board. If you're going to go tri fire or quad sli or something crazy then yah, you probably either want the NF200 chipset or just go 1366.
    
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Well let's see. I run all my games at 1920x1080 with full anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering, plus any other detail setting set to the maximum. No game drops anywhere near below 60 FPS. So, I still wonder why anybody spends £800 to £1,000 on a pair of graphics cards!
I think it's insane. Even if I won the EuroMillions lottery I still wouldn't be as crazy as that!!
Because I have probably twice the gpu power you do and as I said I can easily drop it below 60 fps in just about any game out there at 1080p.
    
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If you have nothing informative to add please keep it to yourself, getting threads locked won't change the fact that even at higher res AMD will bottleneck CF/SLI.
LOL.
That what I was going to write to you.
You have stated also that AMD processors will even bottleneck single gpu's - that's completely false. Phenom II's does NOT bottleneck a GTX 580, therefore if you have false information - not here, please don't participate in an argument where you are the most biased.

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Yes I'm bias because I've had a 1090T on a single 470 that got bottlenecked.

You can say it won't, I've experienced it doing it. I'll take my word for it.
    
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Please read my previous post in the previous page.
Intel combo (cpu + mobo) is 33% more expensive that AMD combo (when you want SLI/Xfire).
Either prices are different over there or you have no idea what your talking about. Its about the same here in the US for a 2500k+decent mobo and for a hexacore+decent mobo.

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Well let's see. I run all my games at 1920x1080 with full anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering, plus any other detail setting set to the maximum. No game drops anywhere near below 60 FPS. So, I still wonder why anybody spends £800 to £1,000 on a pair of graphics cards!
I think it's insane. Even if I won the EuroMillions lottery I still wouldn't be as crazy as that!!
On a 5870? You sir are full of it. Minesweeper doesnt count btw.
 
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Yes I'm bias because I've had a 1090T on a single 470 that got bottlenecked.

You can say it won't, I've experienced it doing it. I'll take my word for it.
1024x768? maybe. I don't play at those resolutions anyway. I certainly doubt that you got bottlenecked on FHD in games that do not have an intel preference.

Here, see?
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...600k-review/21

Almost identical frames between the hex core & SB.

Even when you overclock the 2600K, the results are still identical. And this is GTX 580.

negle, I ask you to read my post in page 9, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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LOL.
That what I was going to write to you.
You have stated also that AMD processors will even bottleneck single gpu's - that's completely false. Phenom II's does NOT bottleneck a GTX 580, therefore if you have false information - not here, please don't participate in an argument where you are the most biased.

Yeah a Phenom 2 WILL bottleneck a 580. Do yourself a favor and stop, your just making yourself look bad.

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1024x768? maybe. I don't play at those resolutions anyway. I certainly doubt that you got bottlenecked on FHD in games that do not have an intel preference.

Here, see?
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...600k-review/21

Almost identical frames between the hex core & SB.

Even when you overclock the 2600K, the results are still identical. And this is GTX 580.

negle, I ask you to read my post in page 9, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Congratulations you found 1 example where they managed to be almost even, did you bother looking on the next page? Also it would benifit you to NOT get all your information from just one bench.
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Yeah a Phenom 2 WILL bottleneck a 580. Do yourself a favor and stop, your just making yourself look bad.
Another 2500K owner? God, you are like insects - everywhere.

And please, at least I'm objective. I don't have either of those processors. You do.
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I remember the article. It's more about showing readers the difference between older archetecture, and newer.

The real battle is going to bee Bulldozer vs. Ivy bridge.

I can predict this is going to cause the 2012 phenomenon.
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1024x768? maybe. I don't play at those resolutions anyway. I certainly doubt that you got bottlenecked on FHD in games that do not have an intel preference.

Here, see?
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...600k-review/21

Almost identical frames between the hex core & SB.

Even when you overclock the 2600K, the results are still identical. And this is GTX 580.

negle, I ask you to read my post in page 9, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Troll?

Either you're a massive troll, or you don't understand the difference between gpu and cpu bottleneck.

Which is it?


Edit: It's never ending isn't it?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...600k-review/20


40 fps bottleneck at 1080p, quite sad anyone would continue to deny that even when using their own link to show it.
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