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Originally Posted by nagle3092 View Post
On a 5870? You sir are full of it. Minesweeper doesnt count btw.
Excuse me?
When did a single 5870 become crap?
What the hell are you talking about and how come you know better than I do what I play games at??
I'm talking about Battlefield Bad Company 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Supreme Commander 2 and Crysis 2 (though this one isn't very demanding, obviously).
    
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post #112 of 200
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Troll?

Either you're a massive troll, or you don't understand the difference between gpu and cpu bottleneck.

Which is it?
Hes either a troll or just very confused.
 
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post #113 of 200
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Troll?

Either you're a massive troll, or you don't understand the difference between gpu and cpu bottleneck.

Which is it?
Let me explain this to you. What happens when you game? There's some information going to the CPU. The processor processes the information the the game gives to, and then delivers that processed info to the GPU. The GPU needs to handle what the CPU delivers to him.
When a processor is not fast enough to provide ALL of the information needed from the game to the GPU because it is not fast enough - here's the bottleneck. The GPU gets less information to process, therefore you get less frames.

Since AMD is fast enough to provide all of the info from the game - the GPU processes what it should - so no bottlenecking here. That's exactly what is described in guru3d's graph.

Understand now?
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These graphs posted by -X3- are actually a good point to make in this thread. With a single GeForce GTX 580, both the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T and the Intel Core i7-2600K yield pretty much the SAME FPS in BFBC2 at maximum detail running at 1920x1080. Since no on really plays these games at 1024x768 any more, why bother?
It seems that the reviewer noted the 100% usage on the single graphics card - no bottleneck there either. I won't comment that if he adds another such graphics card, that there will be no bottleneck on the AMD system - perhaps yeah (some of you seem to have seen this for yourselves). My question is though - why add the second card when it seems one card is eating the game for breakfast?
And no, benchmark erections for bragging rights do not count. It just doesn't sink in for me.
    
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Excuse me?
When did a single 5870 become crap?
What the hell are you talking about and how come you know better than I do what I play games at??
I'm talking about Battlefield Bad Company 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Supreme Commander 2 and Crysis 2 (though this one isn't very demanding, obviously).
I never once said it was crap mind you. But there is no way you dont get below 60fps in BFBC2 at 1920x1080 with max AA. I get dips below 60 with 8xAA and a 570 at 800core is a good deal stronger than a 5870.
 
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I had to update my avatar.
    
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I never once said it was crap mind you. But there is no way you dont get below 60fps in BFBC2 at 1920x1080 with max AA. I get dips below 60 with 8xAA and a 570 at 800core is a good deal stronger than a 5870.
You're probably correct then. It just plays so well on my single 5870 that I don't see the visual impairment of the so-called below optimum FPS. As a result, spending another £200 to £350 in adding a second card is what is truly "below optimum". Aside from the money spent, then there's the issue with the extra heat in my loop, another water block, more space occupied inside the case, etc, etc. More than one card is just fail for me, personally.
    
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I've seen benchmarks lately in a British magazine called CustomPC in an overclocking instruction article and it showed benchmarks in BFBC2 running an overclocked Core i5 2500K (4.2GHz I believe) with a Radeon 6870 and marked it's avg and max frame rates and then did the same for an overclocked X6 1090T (3.875 GHz) and same GFX.

The Intel part beat the AMD by 17FPS?!?!?! Does the CPU really make that much of a difference? Does the 1090T really suck that bad in gaming?

Thoughts?
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...-left-amd.html

Yes.
    
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Here is a comparison between my old amd rig and another members intel rig. Notice we are both using 6870s, my cpu was at 4.0 and his was 4.2. Notice how his MINIMUM fps where the same as my Average fps. His average was 20fps higher than mine. Cpu bottleneck I think much.

My rig

His rig


PS dont try to say that the 100mhz he oced his cards gave him that extra 20fps because it didnt.

PSS Love the new Avatar Balla
 
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I had to update my avatar.
Now I'm convinced that arguing with you is just like talking to a wall :S

Anyways, to the OP - I doubt that you could get a definite answer here, especially with all those 2500k owners... But in conclusion - they're pretty much identical when playing games.
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