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That's because most of the world has a strange prejudice about AMD. That false belief I'm trying prevent.
You just cannot prevent people from buying the most bang4buck system. AMD is excellent here, and I just can't see a justified foundation which suggests that Sandy Bridge is significantly faster than Phenom II's in gaming.

Nagle, I rest my case. If you combine all the variables that I have mentioned, you'll get an approximate value of 20 frames difference.
No, it really is because AMD is inferior at this point in time. There is no benchmarking website conspiracy against AMD. Their CPU's are not as good as Intel's. It's that simple, man...

And what? You think 200MHz on a CPU and a few hundred megahertz on a GPU will equate to 20FPS in Crysis? Come on, man, you HAVE to be trolling with that. If I dropped my OC by 200MHz and lowered my GPU back to stock clocks I will not drop 20FPS in Crysis. Hell, if I did that'd bring me to minus FPS.
    
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Most AMD user's do not care that Intel is superior at this point in time. I (and I'm sure others) built AMD because It's cheap and the best deal for price/performance that I was looking for. Respect peoples opinions and stop trying to oppress yours by shoving them down their necks. This isn't necessarily related to the thread topic itself but to the flamers.
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Most AMD user's do not care that Intel is superior at this point in time. I (and I'm sure others) built AMD because It's cheap and the best deal for price/performance that I was looking for. Respect peoples opinions and stop trying to oppress yours by shoving them down their necks. This isn't necessarily related to the thread topic itself but to the flamers.
^This. Lol Inteltroll fanbois just overran yet another thread in the AMD section.

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Mhmm, indeed it does. At 1920x1080, though, the difference in FPS for your single graphics card would have been 1 or 2 FPS.



LOL, mhmm, for those with more money than sense, indeed.
So true man.
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intel plays always fair, no cheating involved. ever.

wait a sec, intel was sued in court last year..
fair-play is foreign word for some companies, sad.
Oh yeah intel never cheats,uses dirty tactics or makes OEM's use their product instead or otherwise
punish them. Your precious intel is perfect.

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Ya but you also pay more for Intel than AMD. You can also get by using a Phenom 965 in a cheap sub 700-800$ build. You also still need a fairly decent video card to notice the difference a cpu makes in gaming.

Another thing to realize is that the majority of people with gaming computers are not really upgrading every time a new CPU line comes out. This means that the games being made will continue to be aimed at lower speced systems (not to mention consoles). People with amd rigs will still run games at higher settings than the average PC gamer, just look at me still getting away with my Q6600 and HD4850.
QFT.
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Yes I'm bias because I've had a 1090T on a single 470 that got bottlenecked.

You can say it won't, I've experienced it doing it. I'll take my word for it.
Proof you had a 1090T?
I,as most people would have a hard time believing someone like you even ever had a AMD.
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Ya but you also pay more for Intel than AMD. You can also get by using a Phenom 965 in a cheap sub 700-800$ build. You also still need a fairly decent video card to notice the difference a cpu makes in gaming.

Another thing to realize is that the majority of people with gaming computers are not really upgrading every time a new CPU line comes out. This means that the games being made will continue to be aimed at lower speced systems (not to mention consoles). People with amd rigs will still run games at higher settings than the average PC gamer, just look at me still getting away with my Q6600 and HD4850.
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There is no benchmarking website conspiracy against AMD.
intel plays always fair, no cheating involved. ever.

wait a sec, intel was sued in court last year..
fair-play is foreign word for some companies, sad.


on the other hand, i remember loud moaning "damn it, new sockets again, intel"
now, suddenly it is okay, nobody complaints, awesome...

now instead they will advise that you should throw your current machine, and change to sb ..
interesting enough, seems nobody is "advising" this to current nehalem users, awesome part2..
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Most AMD user's do not care that Intel is superior at this point in time. I (and I'm sure others) built AMD because It's cheap and the best deal for price/performance that I was looking for. Respect peoples opinions and stop trying to oppress yours by shoving them down their necks. This isn't necessarily related to the thread topic itself but to the flamers.
I bought AMD for that reason as well. I was comfortable with them, so I stuck with them from the k6-2 up to Athlon II/Phenom II systems I had. I regret it completely.

In reality you only save a small amount but the general performance is a good a deal lower. For gpu's you can ge away with buying cheaper as it's so competitive 200 will get you amazing performance for the money, but for the CPU I think I(and most) would have been better of spending the extra 50 or so.
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I love threads like these, they really show everyone's inner fanboy, especially the guys that claim they gained 20FPS in Crysis, the most GPU dependent game that barely uses 2 cores, by switching to Intel.

It's a wonder AMD makes any money, especially since their CPUs are apparently Pentium Pro equivalents.
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Well at this point AMD's CPU architecture is really outdated. It holds its own against Core 2 Quads, but simply cranking up the speed wasnt enough to compete with Nehalem i7's and now with Sandy Bridge that gap is pretty large.

Just look at a some i7-2600 reviews (I picked this one because the game benchmarks are all on 1 page, but you can see the same trend in dozens of reviews):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/20

I would say +20fps is a fair average, in some cases its much more, in some cases less.
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Most AMD user's do not care that Intel is superior at this point in time. I (and I'm sure others) built AMD because It's cheap and the best deal for price/performance that I was looking for.
I find more people build AMD out of brand loyalty than price. Vote the udnerdog, and all that rubbish. AMD is the cheapest price, but not the best performance.

The cheapest, Black Edition x6 1055T AMD CPU is around £150, which is around the price of a i5-2500k (about £160), yet the 2500k pounds the x6 1055T into the ground in terms of performance.

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Respect peoples opinions and stop trying to oppress yours by shoving them down their necks. This isn't necessarily related to the thread topic itself but to the flamers.
Eh, get out. This thread asks the direct question if whether Intel is superior and the answer is a resounding yes. The one guy is trying to say there's a conspiracy against AMD. Sorry, but in this case people don't and are not required to respect a blatantly wrong opinion.

I personally have "respectfully" tried to iterate that Intel are better now. Who the hell knows what Bulldozer will be like? but the point is, 1156, 1155 and 1366 generation CPU's are all leaps and bounds better than current AMD offerings and thus in answer to the thread question, yes, Intel are better for gaming. Enough said. Get off your high horse.
    
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I love threads like these, they really show everyone's inner fanboy, especially the guys that claim they gained 20FPS in Crysis, the most GPU dependent game that barely uses 2 cores, by switching to Intel.

It's a wonder AMD makes any money, especially since their CPUs are apparently Pentium Pro equivalents.
I agree, I should have known this would turn into a fanboy flame war when I started the thread. My bad.

I go with whoever has the best product for the best price, which is why I'm running an unlocked X2 @ 4GHz! Quad overclocked for $80! Can't beat that.

I've ran Intel and AMD, nvidia and ati. I love them all. Lets just hope Bulldozer really gives amd a boost. And keep Intel in check.

Seems like AMD has been struggling to keep their heads above water since intel came out with the core architecture.
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