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Were do they say Forza is a sim racer? I have been looking at their site o.o. link please
The developers don't really have to say that it is a sim racer... The fact that you're driving real cars, on real tracks, and are given the ability to adjust nearly every aspect of you car makes it a sim racer.

Do you need Crytek to say that Crysis 2 is an FPS in order for it to actually be one?

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Yes I agree they try and thats why I like the game, but I have never seen some one from turn10 say forza was a sim racer. Just because reviewers and people say so does not make it so. They DO do a good job though, Im just worried a bit that they might kill the game play in this one judging from the video. I hope Im wrong and it is better then 3.
It fits just about all of the criteria that makes a PC game a sim racer and it has some features that well known PC sim racers don't. Heck, Even GTR2 adapted Forza's driving line.

If you don't agree with the notion that Forza is sim by publications, its your words versus theirs and I obviously choose theirs.


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More realistic then SHift at least and very close to GTR2. I have not played many Sim in PC but i know Forza tries and i dont know how much it accomplishes.
It does nearly as much as those PC sim racers. It isn't like the turn of the decade when consoles were limited by hardware. Now consoles are more closely related to PCs with multicore processors capable of handling physics beyond the refresh rate of each frame.

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The PC racing simulation category isn't what it once was. While the PC used to be home to a big variety of classic, in-depth racing sim series, the ever-increasing power of game consoles and the promise of more sales have led many would-be racing developers to abandon the PC altogether.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/gtr2/review.html

Forza has a dedicated tire model, dedicated 360hz physics model, damage modeling, and a separate aerodynamics model, triple-monitor support, and Wheel support just like iRacing and, to a lesser extent, GTR.
Edited by BizzareRide - 4/2/11 at 11:20pm
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Didn't see any Porsches, so don't care about the game
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The developers don't really have to say that it is a sim racer... The fact that you're driving real cars, on real tracks, and are given the ability to adjust nearly every aspect of you car makes it a sim racer.

Do you need Crytek to say that Crysis 2 is an FPS in order for it to actually be one?



It fits just about all of the criteria that makes a PC game a sim racer and it has some features that well known PC sim racers don't. Heck, Even GTR2 adapted Forza's driving line.

If you don't agree with the notion that Forza is sim by publications, its your words versus theirs and I obviously choose theirs.




It does nearly as much as those PC sim racers. It isn't like the turn of the decade when consoles were limited by hardware. Now consoles are more closely related to PCs with multicore processors capable of handling physics beyond the refresh rate of each frame.



http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/gtr2/review.html

Forza has a dedicated tire model, dedicated 360hz physics model, damage modeling, and a separate aerodynamics model, triple-monitor support, and Wheel support just like iRacing and, to a lesser extent, GTR.
Actually they do mention crysis as FPS , What im getting at is Forza IS trying to make it into sim but does not label it as one.
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I hate exclusives. For me they just smell of lots of bribes and contracts between the dev and the platform owner.

I cannot believe that the profits for the dev are as good when releasing on only one platform than they would be if they released on all the platforms, even if the production costs ramp up a bit. That would also be a really good way to attack the GT series.

oh well, you can't get everything.
 
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Forza 3 Ultimate Edition anyone?
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Its just a matter of time, Whenever one ports there racer to PC (GT Or Forza) they will make unsuspected millions and the other exclusive will follow.

Also i HIGHLY DOUBT the thrustmaster Ferrari F430 wheel will work on xbox /sad
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I hate exclusives. For me they just smell of lots of bribes and contracts between the dev and the platform owner.

I cannot believe that the profits for the dev are as good when releasing on only one platform than they would be if they released on all the platforms, even if the production costs ramp up a bit. That would also be a really good way to attack the GT series.

oh well, you can't get everything.
Well you wouldn't get the perks of being exclusive and you'd have to put in all of the extra development time for the other platforms, which will cost major moola. Not to mention I doubt they could have made it look this good on all the platforms instead of focusing solely on only a single platform.
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Well you wouldn't get the perks of being exclusive and you'd have to put in all of the extra development time for the other platforms, which will cost major moola. Not to mention I doubt they could have made it look this good on all the platforms instead of focusing solely on only a single platform.
yes I addressed the extra cost in my previous post, and as I said I highly doubt that the cost of the extra development would outweigh the profit that they'd gain by releasing for the ps3 and the PC, that way they'd also be directly competing with GT on the ps3 side of things.
 
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Sorry but, Forza and GT are racing simulators whether you like it or not.

Don't try and skew the definition of "simulator" to try and downplay a platform that you care nothing about.

If you don't care, then why bother posting in this thread? Just leave this topic to the fans of the franchise.
You know less than nothing...
I bet you haven't even realized I'm a big GT fan.
But that doesn't make it a simulator, Forza is less sim than GT

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More realistic then SHift at least and very close to GTR2. I have not played many Sim in PC but i know Forza tries and i dont know how much it accomplishes.
To even compare it to Shift... dear lord.
If you compare ANY racing game to shift they magically becomes simulators.

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I really hope they dont add that stupid 'oh wow Im going so fast my screen blurs' effect...
The idiotic effect.

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The developers don't really have to say that it is a sim racer... The fact that you're driving real cars, on real tracks, and are given the ability to adjust nearly every aspect of you car makes it a sim racer.
That makes the games RACING GAMES, not simulator games.
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Do you need Crytek to say that Crysis 2 is an FPS in order for it to actually be one?
That makes Crysis a murder simulator if you use your way of categorizing games.

While they may feel realistic to drive they don't make good simulator games.
Heck, even Live for Speed is a better "simulator" than Forza and GT5.
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