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Poll Results: Upgrade my Mobo and CPU to a 1366 or Core 2 Duo E8400

 
  • 90% (45)
    1366 Motherboard and CPU Upgrade
  • 10% (5)
    Core 2 Duo E8400 Upgrade
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post #121 of 162
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E8400-Thermal-Paste-/320679688763?pt=
e8400 for $58 bucks on auction, trying to convince parents for a "loan".
[Edit] Fk i need to get a PSU before, i cant break my budget plan.

My Mobo.
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Edited by Gawdz - 4/6/11 at 6:02am
post #122 of 162
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Originally Posted by Gawdz;13021952 
:O Dam, i'll check it out 4.0Ghz would be a good club to be in.

Lawl my cousins boyfriend is building himself a rig, were having a comp but i just found out his is getting a 2600k so im screwed. 4.0ghz would be something to tease him with for awhile until he starts OCing.
I'll be very surprised to see 4.0 GHz achieved from an E8400 installed a MicroATX motherboard with the G41 chipset that also has onboard video, a Parallel/LPT port, and a Serial/COM port. Still, it's always worth a shot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawdz;13022081 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E8400-Thermal-Paste-/320679688763?pt=
e8400 for $58 bucks on auction, trying to convince parents for a "loan".
[Edit] Fk i need to get a PSU before, i cant break my budget plan.

My Mobo.
I know which motherboard you have; it's in your signature. I looked it up a few days ago and found it here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131650


Anyway, would you be able to get that E8400 first? You could hang on to it while saving up for a PSU.
Edited by TwoCables - 4/6/11 at 9:20pm
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post #123 of 162
Absolutely no reason to upgrade your CPU to a generation that's soon to die off completely. I mean, AMD has moved on from AM2 and AM2+. Newegg doesn't sell them anymore. They're just selling what they have left in stock.

Go for the 1366 CPU and Mobo. Waaay better option at the moment.
     
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post #124 of 162
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere;13032466 
Absolutely no reason to upgrade your CPU to a generation that's soon to die off completely. I mean, AMD has moved on from AM2 and AM2+. Newegg doesn't sell them anymore. They're just selling what they have left in stock.

Go for the 1366 CPU and Mobo. Waaay better option at the moment.
Yeah, and way more expensive. He's 13, so he doesn't have a job, he has no regular income, and he has no money.

If he were to go with the 1366 socket, then he'd have to wait even longer to upgrade because then he'll have to buy a new motherboard too! So by doing what he's doing now, he gets an upgrade much sooner; and this upgrade is still going to be nice.

Then when he gets a job in a couple of years, he can begin saving up for something much more modern.
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post #125 of 162
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;13032108 
I'll be very surprised to see 4.0 GHz achieved from an E8400 installed a MicroATX motherboard with the G41 chipset that also has onboard video, a Parallel/LPT port, and a Serial/COM port. Still, it's always worth a shot.



I know which motherboard you have; it's in your signature. I looked it up a few days ago and found it here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131650


Anyway, would you be able to get that E8400 first? You could hang on to it while saving up for a PSU.

So your saying that using the onboard video is limiting my overclocking or just until i get a gfx card.
post #126 of 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawdz;13033619 
So your saying that using the onboard video is limiting my overclocking or just until i get a gfx card.
Nope. It's that it's common for boards that have onboard video to not be as good at overclocking due to having less room on the PCB for other components that help make overclocking easier. So even if the onboard video is disabled, the board itself is still the same.

For example: the Gigabyte EP45-UD3 series of motherboards is about the best for overclocking socket 775 CPUs. These boards were built for overclocking: they don't have onboard video, and they're using the Standard ATX size in order to fit more things on the motherboard that contribute to making it easier to overclock. There are other things that make the EP45-UD3 series great at overclocking, but I don't know how to describe them.

So I expect the Asus P5G41C-M LX to reach its limit at roughly 3.7 or 3.8 GHz in regards to overclocking the E8400. If it gets more than that without any problem, then that would be awesome. However, I would be surprised (again, even if its onboard video is disabled).
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post #127 of 162
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What about this [URL="http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013"]EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI[/URL] Its a LGA775 Motherboard, No onboard video SLI compatible.
post #128 of 162
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Originally Posted by Gawdz;13034034 
What about this [URL="http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013"]EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI[/URL] Its a LGA775 Motherboard, No onboard video SLI compatible.
Whoa! What a coincidence that you're asking me of all people! I upgraded from that exact motherboard (I always called it "122-CK-NF68" for short) directly to the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P! The difference from that board to the EP45-UD3P is huge. I went from having a hard time overclocking my E8400 to having no problems at all. Not only is overclocking much easier with the EP45-UD3P, but it also allows me to use much less vCore for the same overclock. On top of that, my system feels much more stable in general.

Plus, the 122-CK-NF68 doesn't have the Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI) (no 680i board does) while the EP45-UD3P does. Well, I think every P45 board has AHCI.

Not only that, but the EP45-UD3P doesn't require a fan for the northbridge like that 122-CK-NF68! So, my system is quieter too!

Sure, the EP45-UD3P claims to only support Crossfire, but it can be fooled into working perfectly for SLI too. smile.gif

Although, I think the 122-CK-NF68 might be a slight upgrade for you in terms of overclocking ability.
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post #129 of 162
Thread Starter 
Yeah i seen your mobo a couple of times, its just its like a bunch of colours mixed and dunno if it will look so good but i guess hardware is better then looks.
post #130 of 162
Looks are absolutely the least important thing in a system. They are actually the last thing that should be considered once everything else is established.
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