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Just keep in mind that the sandy bridge CPUs all only have a single x16 link from the CPU to the pci slots. Thst means you'll never be able to run two gpus at their max speed. The older x58 architecture on the other hand, has a total of 32 lanes from the CPU down to the pci slots. That's why most of them can run at x16/x16/x8 or a combination of that.
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my personal suggestion, and i yes i guess you could remove one of the cages. i just felt better getting the 922 when i bought it.
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Hmm, so Shinigami, you recommend me not going the crossfire route with the sandy bridge processor? Also, the GTX570 vs the radeon 6950 is a fairly close comparison in terms of benchmarks, from what I have read, but the 570 is (from what I've seen, again) is about 80 dollars more. Is that amount of performance really worth the 80 dollars, or should that be put towards something else?

Again, just inquiring, as I'm no genius. Opinions on the cards is accepted, as well as any other opinions, as always .

Still working things out, and continuing to see what arises from other people's points of views, before I make a final decision, which will be hopefully in the next couple of days.

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well, as i said the 6950 can we unlocked to a 6970 its an amazing card, i just think at 1080p is a better performing card, and the stability is worth it in my opinions/ drivers. although amd is catching up fast.
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Hmm, so Shinigami, you recommend me not going the crossfire route with the sandy bridge processor?
x16x16 crossfire has virtually no benefit over the x8x8 crossfire. Don't worry about it.


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Also, the GTX570 vs the radeon 6950 is a fairly close comparison in terms of benchmarks, from what I have read, but the 570 is (from what I've seen, again) is about 80 dollars more. Is that amount of performance really worth the 80 dollars, or should that be put towards something else?
First of all, you can unlock the 6950 to a 6970, the difference is minimal if you compare an unlocked 6950 to a 570. Also, the 69XX series GPUs have the best scalability of any GPUs (i'm pretty sure) so you'd get a lot more bang for your buck with two unlocked 6950's than two 570's.

Take a look at this!: Two 6970's (or unlocked 6950s) are basically equal to two 580's in SLI.
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Hmm, so Shinigami, you recommend me not going the crossfire route with the sandy bridge processor? Also, the GTX570 vs the radeon 6950 is a fairly close comparison in terms of benchmarks, from what I have read, but the 570 is (from what I've seen, again) is about 80 dollars more. Is that amount of performance really worth the 80 dollars, or should that be put towards something else?

Again, just inquiring, as I'm no genius. Opinions on the cards is accepted, as well as any other opinions, as always .

Still working things out, and continuing to see what arises from other people's points of views, before I make a final decision, which will be hopefully in the next couple of days.

Thanks.
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No no, of course not. Like grassh0ppa said, it'll have virtually no performance drop in comparison. It's just that tri crossfire is not an option in the sandy bridges... Not that tri crossfire is advisable or even worth it... From what I've heard, it's definitely not worth the extra dough...

That being said, if you plan on keeping this mobo for a while, then as you upgrade the gpu, you might run into bandwidth restrictions. But that'll be a long ways off... And even when you do get a faster gpu, chances are that you'll probably not even want a crossfire setup then...

So all in all, I was just pointing that out, and it's safe to go with crossfire on sandy bridges...
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Alright, so based on what grass had to say, I think I am going to go with his build, and due to the fact that his is about 1000 before tax, I figured that I'd add in windows 7 (95ish dollars), and another 5950 (2 is better than 1!), which brings me to 1400ish. Now, if I am going to be running dual gpus, am I going to need a slight psu upgrade due to the extra wattage needed by the other card? and am i going to need additional fans?

Also, any other opinions on how to get from 1000 (grass' build), to 1500 are accepted, just factor in windows 7, and what are everyone's opinions? is it even worth it to cfx the 2 cards? Oh, and is an SSD really worth it? If so, could I not just buy like a 16/32gb one, and just have my OS and game on that? as opposed to dropping like 300 dollars on a 100ish gb one?

OH! Quick idea. Does the 6950 support dual monitors? (Something I've kind of wanted to try out when browsing and such, and could prob. turn it off when actually gaming just to increase performance. Also, if you want me to go this route, then you could include a good monitor, I like 24ish inches, as that is what I'm using now.

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Alright, so based on what grass had to say, I think I am going to go with his build, and due to the fact that his is about 1000 before tax, I figured that I'd add in windows 7 (95ish dollars), and another 5950 (2 is better than 1!), which brings me to 1400ish. Now, if I am going to be running dual gpus, am I going to need a slight psu upgrade due to the extra wattage needed by the other card? and am i going to need additional fans?

Also, any other opinions on how to get from 1000 (grass' build), to 1500 are accepted, just factor in windows 7, and what are everyone's opinions? is it even worth it to cfx the 2 cards? Oh, and is an SSD really worth it? If so, could I not just buy like a 16/32gb one, and just have my OS and game on that? as opposed to dropping like 300 dollars on a 100ish gb one?

OH! Quick idea. Does the 6950 support dual monitors? (Something I've kind of wanted to try out when browsing and such, and could prob. turn it off when actually gaming just to increase performance. Also, if you want me to go this route, then you could include a good monitor, I like 24ish inches, as that is what I'm using now.

Thanks as always.
Pandemix.
Yes the 6950 supports dual monitors... In fact, it'll most likely support 8 monitors... For a monitor, your best bet is to get the exact same model as the one you have right now. Not only will it look better, it'll ensure that you get a consistent picture throughout both your monitors.

As for extra wattage, even a 750w is more than adequate to crossfire any two gpus. As for is it worth it, I would personally have to say yes. The performance gains in certain games that have the right crossfire settings will get a framerate boost of almost double. That being said though, the general rule for gpus is to go faster before going multiple. What I mean is this: buy the fastest possible single card that your budget will allow for before considering getting multiple gpus.

Hope I helped
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Alright, so based on what grass had to say, I think I am going to go with his build, and due to the fact that his is about 1000 before tax, I figured that I'd add in windows 7 (95ish dollars), and another 5950 (2 is better than 1!), which brings me to 1400ish. Now, if I am going to be running dual gpus, am I going to need a slight psu upgrade due to the extra wattage needed by the other card? and am i going to need additional fans?

Also, any other opinions on how to get from 1000 (grass' build), to 1500 are accepted, just factor in windows 7, and what are everyone's opinions? is it even worth it to cfx the 2 cards? Oh, and is an SSD really worth it? If so, could I not just buy like a 16/32gb one, and just have my OS and game on that? as opposed to dropping like 300 dollars on a 100ish gb one?

OH! Quick idea. Does the 6950 support dual monitors? (Something I've kind of wanted to try out when browsing and such, and could prob. turn it off when actually gaming just to increase performance. Also, if you want me to go this route, then you could include a good monitor, I like 24ish inches, as that is what I'm using now.

Thanks as always.
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Just me, but I'd wait on getting the second 6950 for now. Go with the SSD instead. I just went through the same process and decided against adding another GPU for the time being. The 6950 in my rig handles anything I throw at it with ease. So, adding another one is not going to make my day to use of the rig all that much better, IMO. The SSD on the other hand, is the single biggest thing I notice on my rig and its everyday. Its amazingly fast and it makes it a joy to turn the computer on. Don't get me wrong, another 6950 is in my future. Its just the SSD makes way more sense to me. You won't regret it.

The Vortex3 is supposed to be the best, but good luck finding it in stock. I have the C300 and I am very pleased with its performance.
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Just keep in mind that the sandy bridge CPUs all only have a single x16 link from the CPU to the pci slots. Thst means you'll never be able to run two gpus at their max speed. The older x58 architecture on the other hand, has a total of 32 lanes from the CPU down to the pci slots. That's why most of them can run at x16/x16/x8 or a combination of that.
it takes off like 2 fps, who is going to care about that?
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