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Poll Results: Which of the two would you recommend?

 
  • 52% (11)
    Dell U2410
  • 47% (10)
    Hp ZR24W
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post #1 of 16
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Ive been doing a whole lot of research on monitors and have narrowed down my search to the Dell U2410 and the HP ZR24W. Initially budget was a huge player in my preference and I ended up getting the Samsung PX2370 (Im not happy with the way it renders colors). I live in the philippines (unfortunately had to move here) where there is an appalling lack of unit availability and I cannot see the units physically and will have to rely on online reviews and technical specs. Prices here are twice as expensive as in the states such as the U2410 being $720 instead of $500++ and I'll have to wait for a good 1 month before I can receive my unit, so I have to be a 100% sure of what I'm purchasing before I pull the trigger. Although budget was initially a huge player I decided to make an exception since well, it'll be the end-of-the-world in a year and all...

I've been using my dell sxps 1640 for 2 and a half me-- years now and love the wide-gamut coverage, although I have noticed very slight color differences in my prints when compared to the actual digital image. I am a digital artist and an animator so "color representation and reproduction" and "color accuracy" are the most important factors that I look at in a monitor. Based on my research I noticed that a wide color gamut range (especially in the U2410) produces unappealing color variations in prints and web interpretations, since most of the color space used by the internet and printers is the sRGB and doesn't have much support for Adobes RGB space. User reviews have also stated that the U2410 has green and pink tinting issues on the sides. Is this true for all units, is it made that way? Or did fate just have a bone to pick with those fellows?

I would also like to know if it is possible to set the u2410's color profile to accommodate mainly sRGB and later on switch to RGB, and if ever I do go for one of these monitors will passing it through an x-ray damage it? Because I'll have to order this from an outside source.

In conclusion:
1.) Budget isn't a big factor.
2.) I'll be using this mainly for digital art and animation but also for games (left4dead2, COD modern warfare 2 etc etc), movies and editing HD videos.
3.) Response time isn't as important as color accuracy and coverage.
4.) I read that the colors on the U2410 aren't as accurate as the colors on the ZR24W, is this true?
5.) Does the U2410 really have all these tinting issues and does it have bluish hues instead of blacks and pinkish hues instead of red? Please confirm this.

So should I go for the U2410 or the ZR24W? (sadly there isn't much difference in the price, only $50 or so)

I would greatly appreciate other display suggestions but please note that brands such as EIZO and NEC aren't available in my country smile.gif

I'm dying to replace my PX2370, I don't want to be stuck with it knowing that It'll never be as awesome as my sxps's rgbled (I've gone all lady gaga on the calibration of this thing and it's still nothing compared to the sxps) and want to return it asap.
post #2 of 16
The Dell U2410 has a higher quality panel (H-IPS) compared to that of the HP ZR24W(E-IPS). The HP is going to look better out of the box, but after calibration the colours of the Dell will be much more accurate.

Edit:
Here's a post from a similar thread, it's pretty much what I said but in a bit more detail.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp;10250391 
You can avoid pink tint with proper calibration, so that shouldn't be an issue if you get it.

The main difference besides what you said is that the ZR24W is e-IPS (which is more or less identical to S-IPS in quality) and the U2410 is H-IPS, which is higher quality. However, the ZR24W focuses its strengths behind lower input lag and standard color gamut (74% or so, which covers all of what we normally use) and the U2410 focuses on image quality and extended gamut (96%; great for professional photo and video editing). The ZR24W also has more accurate colors out of the box, while the U2410 requires some tinkering to make it look really nice.

Edited by thisischuck01 - 4/3/11 at 6:26pm
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post #3 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by thisischuck01;12989741 
The Dell U2410 has a higher quality panel (H-IPS) compared to that of the HP ZR24W(S-IPS). The HP is going to look better out of the box, but after calibration the colours of the Dell will be much more accurate.
+1 couldnt have said it better myself
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Originally Posted by ColorHUNGRYArtist;12989110 
4.) I read that the colors on the U2410 aren't as accurate as the colors on the ZR24W, is this true?
5.) Does the U2410 really have all these tinting issues and does it have bluish hues instead of blacks and pinkish hues instead of red? Please confirm this.

4.) The ZR24w is better calibrated out of the box, but once you spend time and properly calibrate both of them, the U2410 definitely edges out the ZR24w.

5.) No. Tint issues were fixed in hardware revision A02; any later version has no firmware/hardware changes, just changes in manufacturing process/location.
Quote:
Originally Posted by thisischuck01;12989741 
The Dell U2410 has a higher quality panel (H-IPS) compared to that of the HP ZR24W(S-IPS). The HP is going to look better out of the box, but after calibration the colours of the Dell will be much more accurate.

The ZR24w is actually e-IPS, not S-IPS, but the quality should be close to the same between the two types.
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post #5 of 16
uh, what's it with the U2410 myth? buyer justification?

Here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/hp_zr24w.htm#comparison
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Colour accuracy was also corrected nicely with very impressive results obtained. Average dE was now 0.3, with a maximum of only 0.6. LaCie would consider colour fidelity to be excellent. Testing the screen with colour gradients revealed smooth colour transitions and no sign of any banding issues. There is no extended internal processing or LUT on this model but in these tests it was hard to separate it from models like the Dell U2410 which do to be honest.
Quote:
If you can calibrate and take advantage of the 100% contrast option, black depth was 0.18 which is the same as the S-PVA based Dell 2408WFP and a little better than the competing Dell U2410 (0.22). It is ever so slightly behind it's predecessor, the LP2475W (0.17) and the NEC EA231WMi which performed the best in this regard in these sized screens (0.15). Contrast ratio is directly linked to black depth, but at 667:1, the ZR24W was again a fair bit ahead of the Dell U2410 (541:1) and pretty comparable to many of the other models we have tested here.

this combined with lower input lag and better response time and better default colours (response time won't matter really, the input lag is more important).....
post #6 of 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thisischuck01;12989741 
The Dell U2410 has a higher quality panel (H-IPS) compared to that of the HP ZR24W(E-IPS). The HP is going to look better out of the box, but after calibration the colours of the Dell will be much more accurate.

Thanks for the reply. I've been looking at the Asus PA246q and noticed that it uses a P-ISP panel, whats the difference between the P-IPS of the PA246q and the H-IPS of the U2410? The U2410 got really low ratings in this review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/hp_zr24w.htm#comparison which seems quite convincing (I'm not a professional and only have 2 days of experience in calibration and am having a hard time deciphering what this review is trying to say. Is it accurate? Does it prove that the ZR24W is better than the U2410?). Thanks.
post #7 of 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp;12989784 
4.) The ZR24w is better calibrated out of the box, but once you spend time and properly calibrate both of them, the U2410 definitely edges out the ZR24w.

5.) No. Tint issues were fixed in hardware revision A02; any later version has no firmware/hardware changes, just changes in manufacturing process/location.



The ZR24w is actually e-IPS, not S-IPS, but the quality should be close to the same between the two types.

Thanks for the reply. Could you provide me with a link to a guide/tutorial on how to properly calibrate the U2410? I have only had a few days of experience in calibrating and would appreciate all the help i could get.

How do I determine the Ao# revision of my unit?

When it comes to color accuracy which monitor from the 2 would you suggest?
post #8 of 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi;12990113 
uh, what's it with the U2410 myth? buyer justification?

Here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/hp_zr24w.htm#comparison





this combined with lower input lag and better response time and better default colours (response time won't matter really, the input lag is more important).....

Thanks for the reply. Wow, reading the statistics present in the review you provided really made me rethink my decision, and now Im confused once more. I have only had a few days of experience with monitors and would appreciate it if you could tell me which of the two monitors is better at reproducing colors. I saw a review on the ZR24W vs U2410 a while ago and noticed that the colors on the ZR24W were horrible in comparison to the U2410, problem is that I cant remember the URL to the review. Thanks.
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi;12990113 
uh, what's it with the U2410 myth? buyer justification?

Here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/hp_zr24w.htm#comparison





this combined with lower input lag and better response time and better default colours (response time won't matter really, the input lag is more important).....

I found the review, check-out the HUGE difference in color.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1272354232
post #10 of 16
I have a ZR24w and it's awesome but if budget isn't really an issue i'd go with the Dell, i would have if i had the money at the time.
    
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