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Hey guys, currently I have 3 evga 470's I'm thinking of getting 2 more monitors to get 2d surround. Has anyone have any experience with this sort of set up, hmm also I be able to play most games on high-ultra for the next year and a half? I could also step up to tri-570's for ~$600 would that be beneficial?

Thanks for the help

Edit: for those who dont want to read the thread, i ended up deciding not getting the 570's or 580's step up, but looking into getting 3 IPS monitors instead of 2 more tn monitors.
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At triple screen 1080p with Tri SLI 470s you will generally run out of VRAM long before you run out of processing power on most games, so I would not recommend going to 570s for $600. As for playing most games on high-ultra for 18 months that again will be determined by your VRAM. I don't think that you would have a completely unplayable experience on Tri SLI 470s in 18 months but I can almost guarantee at some point in those 18months you will have to give up AA entirely.

I don't think any of this is a good enough reason to let yourself be dissuaded from going 2D surround if you think you would enjoy it (and don't mind bezels ) but it's just a trade off of more FOV and maybe immersion for lower details and AA down the road.
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At triple screen 1080p with Tri SLI 470s you will generally run out of VRAM long before you run out of processing power on most games, so I would not recommend going to 570s for $600. As for playing most games on high-ultra for 18 months that again will be determined by your VRAM. I don't think that you would have a completely unplayable experience on Tri SLI 470s in 18 months but I can almost guarantee at some point in those 18months you will have to give up AA entirely.

I don't think any of this is a good enough reason to let yourself be dissuaded from going 2D surround if you think you would enjoy it (and don't mind bezels ) but it's just a trade off of more FOV and maybe immersion for lower details and AA down the road.
thanks for the reply, hmm yeahh though vram might be an issue.. I was considering 580s for the extra vram awhile ago but its way out of my budget even with step up.. Hmm.. I was just worried with 470s that currently that's close to the minimum playable for high settings.. But currently it should play fine, but prob in the next year might be cutting it?


Anyone else have thoughts ?
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Yea I think the biggest thing that you will lose out on will be AA, I don't think you will be forced into playing at medium anytime soon.

If you were thinking of going 580s I would recommend the Palit 3GB ones even though I know you can't step up to them. If it were in your budget then even two 3GB 580s would be pretty good at surround because the 1.5GB of VRAM isn't really enough for to make the most of the processing power that two 580 have available to them in surround resolutions. What I think I would do is get the monitors now and hold onto your 470s because they will be more than adequate for the time being and then see if the price for two Palit 3GB 580s drop, because I don't think the street value of your 470s will get much lower and the 3GB 580 certainly will drop in price eventually. Or maybe by the time your 470s get a bit antiquated Kepler will be out with *finger crossed* more appropriate VRAM amounts.
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I ran that exact setup without an issue. The only games where vram was an issue for me was BFBC2 and Metro2033. To deal with that i just dropped the AA down a few notches and everything was fine.
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I currently have the same exact setup. I'm unfortunately someone who really loves visuals and it sucks because thats not what to expect with only 1.2gb of vram. Crysis you can only do roughly 2xAA with medium settings due to the vram issue. BBC2 you can pretty much max except you top out at 16xCSAA. Anything MSAA and you can pretty much forget about it. If i were you i would buy a 3gb 580 and roll with that till you can sell the 470's and get another one or just save up. After i get sick of this 590 when it comes in this week, i will never dip below 2gb on a card again. And don't worry about the bezels. People think that it would be horrible to have them, but you seriously dont even notice them after awhile. I absolutely love 2d surround, but it would be that much better with more vram. Don't bother with the 570's man.
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Yea I think the biggest thing that you will lose out on will be AA, I don't think you will be forced into playing at medium anytime soon.

If you were thinking of going 580s I would recommend the Palit 3GB ones even though I know you can't step up to them. If it were in your budget then even two 3GB 580s would be pretty good at surround because the 1.5GB of VRAM isn't really enough for to make the most of the processing power that two 580 have available to them in surround resolutions. What I think I would do is get the monitors now and hold onto your 470s because they will be more than adequate for the time being and then see if the price for two Palit 3GB 580s drop, because I don't think the street value of your 470s will get much lower and the 3GB 580 certainly will drop in price eventually. Or maybe by the time your 470s get a bit antiquated Kepler will be out with *finger crossed* more appropriate VRAM amounts.
i was hoping that my vid cards would hold till kepler (maybe maxwell), that was the original plan, ivy bridge upgrade, then kepler but i could only step up 2 cards i have for evga ones =\\, i have a 465 and a 460 i would do the step up with. I guess im going to hold off the 5 series and stuck with what i have and go for the monitors. Thanks!

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I ran that exact setup without an issue. The only games where vram was an issue for me was BFBC2 and Metro2033. To deal with that i just dropped the AA down a few notches and everything was fine.
AAHHH.. nooooo, bfbc2 is the reason i was going to 2d surround.. well for the most part *sigh* but it just would make farther distances not as detailed if i remember correctly.. but thats not so bad ..

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I currently have the same exact setup. I'm unfortunately someone who really loves visuals and it sucks because thats not what to expect with only 1.2gb of vram. Crysis you can only do roughly 2xAA with medium settings due to the vram issue. BBC2 you can pretty much max except you top out at 16xCSAA. Anything MSAA and you can pretty much forget about it. If i were you i would buy a 3gb 580 and roll with that till you can sell the 470's and get another one or just save up. After i get sick of this 590 when it comes in this week, i will never dip below 2gb on a card again. And don't worry about the bezels. People think that it would be horrible to have them, but you seriously dont even notice them after awhile. I absolutely love 2d surround, but it would be that much better with more vram. Don't bother with the 570's man.
hmmm good to know! im planning on getting some 23'' samsung monitors (p2350). their pretty cheap (get them for $160 a piece) althought their color isent the best.. hmm but from what you and juano said, im gonna stick with the 470's until kepler/maxwell put some money into getting the other monitors


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Enough has been said above about 3-way SLI GTX470s. I just want to reiterate that for Surround, this graphics subsystem can run all games with 0xAA to 2xAA. For those few VRAM hungry games, just turn down to 0xAA and you should still be happy.

One offtopic that I want to comment on:-
For 3 monitor setup, I suggest you get IPS-type panel monitors as they have a wider viewing angle and its colour does not fade as the monitors extend into your periphery. It is not that TN-panel monitors (eg Samsung P2350) are totally absolutely rubbish but IPS-panel monitors are just better.

Granted that IPS-panel monitors are more expensive than TN-based ones, I consider the cost as worthy, especially considerting these monitors will stay with you for a much longer time than your graphics cards will. You would likely have upgraded 3 generations of graphics card before even considering changing monitors again.
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Enough has been said above about 3-way SLI GTX470s. I just want to reiterate that for Surround, this graphics subsystem can run all games with 0xAA to 2xAA. For those few VRAM hungry games, just turn down to 0xAA and you should still be happy.

One offtopic that I want to comment on:-
For 3 monitor setup, I suggest you get IPS-type panel monitors as they have a wider viewing angle and its colour does not fade as the monitors extend into your periphery. It is not that TN-panel monitors (eg Samsung P2350) are totally absolutely rubbish but IPS-panel monitors are just better.

Granted that IPS-panel monitors are more expensive than TN-based ones, I consider the cost as worthy, especially considerting these monitors will stay with you for a much longer time than your graphics cards will. You would likely have upgraded 3 generations of graphics card before even considering changing monitors again.
this.

Stick it out for a while or do some step up that cost you very little and sell them off. unfortunately Fermi is old tech right now. With kepler a few months away it is better just to keep your cards and the do some savy sales and add a few dollars for some keplers. I have recently started thinking about upgrades. Early adopters always get screwed but 1 gen old tech can usually sell for 75% of what you paid for. But if you have 2 cards that you are not using, step them up for a free upgrade or something. Maybe some 560;s/
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Enough has been said above about 3-way SLI GTX470s. I just want to reiterate that for Surround, this graphics subsystem can run all games with 0xAA to 2xAA. For those few VRAM hungry games, just turn down to 0xAA and you should still be happy.

One offtopic that I want to comment on:-
For 3 monitor setup, I suggest you get IPS-type panel monitors as they have a wider viewing angle and its colour does not fade as the monitors extend into your periphery. It is not that TN-panel monitors (eg Samsung P2350) are totally absolutely rubbish but IPS-panel monitors are just better.

Granted that IPS-panel monitors are more expensive than TN-based ones, I consider the cost as worthy, especially considerting these monitors will stay with you for a much longer time than your graphics cards will. You would likely have upgraded 3 generations of graphics card before even considering changing monitors again.
Hmmm... ive though about ips, but from my understanding they are in the $400-600 range? if in not mistaken of course. Do they make ips screens for about $200-$300 a screen? was looking for 23" or larger (also needs vesa)

The reason i was considering the p2350 was i could get 2 for about $320 with CA tax and shipping. But with the current one that my GF uses the colors are on the dull side but the performance is (for the most part) just fine


Edits: what about something like this?
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