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Oooh, gotcha. That's still kind of a low ball figure, even for those cards.

You know, since VRAM is going to be such a limiting factor, you could just go for a 27" 3D monitor:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009300

It's 1080p, so the pixel pitch is kind of inflated, but depending on how close you sit it may not bother you. And you could definitely take full advantage of your cards' horsepower without hitting VRAM bottlenecks.
yikes! with that kind of money on a single screen I would be looking for something like a great deal on the Dell u2711 which has IPS and a res of 2560x1440. I feel like 120Hz still has alot of room to come down in price, granted that 27 is one of the bigger 120Hz I have seen but it just doesn't seem worth it to me. I think before too long 120Hz will be at near price parity with 60Hz atleast in less than 30" TN panels, similar to how 6-8 months ago you paid a huge price premium for LED lit TN panels and now they are at the same prices the non LED lit panels were at.
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yikes! with that kind of money on a single screen I would be looking for something like a great deal on the Dell u2711 which has IPS and a res of 2560x1440.
I do love mine, but at the same time, he may still run into VRAM problems at this res depending on the games he plays. I've hit over 1.3GB in Crysis, and now 1.5GB of GPU memory usage in DA2 with just 4xAA.

With the 3D monitor, he should be able to take advantage of the insane fps he'll be getting in most games without any VRAM problems. I mean with three 470s, he'll probably be able to run most games in 3D and still keep ~60fps.

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I feel like 120Hz still has alot of room to come down in price, granted that 27 is one of the bigger 120Hz I have seen but it just doesn't seem worth it to me. I think before too long 120Hz will be at near price parity with 60Hz atleast in less than 30" TN panels, similar to how 6-8 months ago you paid a huge price premium for LED lit TN panels and now they are at the same prices the non LED lit panels were at.
Yeah I agree, the prices are inflated atm. Hopefully it will come down soon... I've been saying that about SSDs for years now too
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470 in Tri Sli will work fine. I don't know what's that stuff people say about IPS or w/e screen, unless you need it for color correction, I wouldn't bother, If your primary purpose is gaming 120Hz is the best monitor you can get.
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I do love mine, but at the same time, he may still run into VRAM problems at this res depending on the games he plays. I've hit over 1.3GB in Crysis, and now 1.5GB of GPU memory usage in DA2 with just 4xAA.

With the 3D monitor, he should be able to take advantage of the insane fps he'll be getting in most games without any VRAM problems. I mean with three 470s, he'll probably be able to run most games in 3D and still keep ~60fps.
That's true, though if he wanted 120Hz I think there is less of a price premium for them in sizes around 23-24" isn't there? I think at that size it's like a $100 price premium compared to that $400 price premium on that 27" you linked


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Yeah I agree, the prices are inflated atm. Hopefully it will come down soon... I've been saying that about SSDs for years now too
Tell me about it... I've been saying to friends and family for over 2 years now "This year they should be at $1/GB" damn Anandtech got my hopes up with his stupid "2010: the year of the SSD" BS back like 2 years ago LOL. And now because I have native sata3 and the new SSDs are out that have a HALF GIG transfer both ways there no way I can settle for anything less so it's gonna be forever before I can afford one of those. Bah humbug!!!
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I do love mine, but at the same time, he may still run into VRAM problems at this res depending on the games he plays. I've hit over 1.3GB in Crysis, and now 1.5GB of GPU memory usage in DA2 with just 4xAA.

With the 3D monitor, he should be able to take advantage of the insane fps he'll be getting in most games without any VRAM problems. I mean with three 470s, he'll probably be able to run most games in 3D and still keep ~60fps.

Yeah I agree, the prices are inflated atm. Hopefully it will come down soon... I've been saying that about SSDs for years now too
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That's true, though if he wanted 120Hz I think there is less of a price premium for them in sizes around 23-24" isn't there? I think at that size it's like a $100 price premium compared to that $400 price premium on that 27" you linked

Tell me about it... I've been saying to friends and family for over 2 years now "This year they should be at $1/GB" damn Anandtech got my hopes up with his stupid "2010: the year of the SSD" BS back like 2 years ago LOL. And now because I have native sata3 and the new SSDs are out that have a HALF GIG transfer both ways there no way I can settle for anything less so it's gonna be forever before I can afford one of those. Bah humbug!!!
hmmm.. 3d monitors? never actually thought of that, i always thought that the glasses would get annoying, i could always go try frys and see what the 3d is like. hmm so my options are 2d surround and 3d ... but if i did get a 3d i would prob go 24-25 inch i have a 26.5" right now i guess ill have to think about it .. i really do like multi monitor but the vram issue..

hah, i remeber when i got my first ssd i was like cool! .. and now im looking at prices.. and they have dropped so much, but the sweet spot will be around $1 a gb .. i just got a c300 off amazon 2 days ago for ~$100 for my htpc =\\ i remember in December they used to be $150 .. prices keep going down (although like you guys said inflated now .. but still cheaper then 2 years ago )

edit:aweman.. i missed my 1000th post -___-
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Well one of the big benefits of 120Hz is even if you don't want 3D you will still be seeing all the massive FPS that your TRI 470s would be kicking out instead of just 60 of them. I would still probably recommend the IPS surround set up though just because that tech is mature and ready and price competitive now, whereas although the 3D tech is getting pretty good it's still just not price competitive at the size you would want. This page tells you all you need to know honestly, that orange $350 is at a good price (only about $100 more than 60Hz) but not the size you want, and then past that you have paying a $400 price premium for the 27"

The way I see it is the 2d surround will work well with what you currently have (not excellently but well) and will really shine when you can feed it with more VRAM around Kepler time, which coming from TRI 470s will be the only time you can really upgrade your GPU and have it be even a little bit cost effective.
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Well one of the big benefits of 120Hz is even if you don't want 3D you will still be seeing all the massive FPS that your TRI 470s would be kicking out instead of just 60 of them. I would still probably recommend the IPS surround set up though just because that tech is mature and ready and price competitive now, whereas although the 3D tech is getting pretty good it's still just not price competitive at the size you would want. This page tells you all you need to know honestly, that orange $350 is at a good price (only about $100 more than 60Hz) but not the size you want, and then past that you have paying a $400 price premium for the 27"

The way I see it is the 2d surround will work well with what you currently have (not excellently but well) and will really shine when you can feed it with more VRAM around Kepler time, which coming from TRI 470s will be the only time you can really upgrade your GPU and have it be even a little bit cost effective.
I concur with this assessment.

Additional comments:
1. Personally I would not go with 3D with a tacky glasses. And I am not sure if you will get dizzy after playing a longer time with the glasses. This is something you cannot be certain even though you can try a demo setup at a local store. I suppose it would be ideal if one of your friends has it and let you try it for an hour.

2. For 2D Surround, I think you are aware of the fact that image at the 2 side monitors are 'disproportioned'. To me, it is acceptable. But to a few, this is not. Just do not walk into it unprepared.
Eg http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9510...-monitors.html
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