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Hate to pull support from NewEgg, but Amazon has both cheaper w/o tax.


Then again, the phones have a slight shipping delay.
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Ok so I have concluded what I am going to get.

Headphones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826402012

Soundcard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829132010

And will I need one of these or no because the STX has a onboard amp that supports up to 600ohms of impedance:

Amazon.com: FiiO E5 Headphone Amplifier: Electronics
You won't need the E5. The STX is more than enough for A700.
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You won't need the E5. The STX is more than enough for A700.
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Last time I'll post in this thread. I suggest you do your own research on sound cards and headphones before you waste your money.
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While we're at this, are the Alessandro MS-1i's any good for gaming? I have them being delivered to me (For music mainly) - but if they're better than the low-impedance Beyerdynamic DT-100's I own (Amped with a Fiio e5 and onboard sound) purely in terms of gaming performance, then I'll use those instead. The DT-100's, I don't think they're used for anything but studio sound monitoring, but they've served me well so far. Are they actually any good stacked against other headphones for gaming?


This is what they look like, unbelievably comfortable and you see them on studio-workers all the time
i have ms-1 which is pretty similar to a ms-1i , in my experience they arent good for fps gaming at all. every sound is cramped into a small space at the centre. for other genres of games they might be ok but in general i wouldnt use them to game.

those dt-100 look very good and they should work better than ms-1i for gaming
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Okay, looks like I've missed a lot over a couple of hours of rest. Anyways, a receiver is basically an all-in-one. A digital-to-analog converter is what it is, no matter what. The DAC decodes the audio from digital to, obviously, analog like in the name.
The preamp and amp power the signal to a much more powerful signal speakers, subwoofers (exceptions), and headphones can receiver and output. There's an exception to subwoofers and woofers. Some have a built in amplifier which means you can just give it an analog signal and it will be able to amplify it on its own and send parts of that amplified signal to the speakers that the speakers can output (mid-high ranged sounds. Some speakers have a woofer and tweeter so it can produce both high and low sounds so it can take the place of a subwoofer or woofer).
Onkyo, Marantz (heard by Denon from reading a thread), Denon, and Yamaha are pretty good brands. Pioneer isn't really doing well right now. I would go with Marantz due to your high budget. Onkyo is great too. It can word for low and high budgets. There are other brands like Sherwood (most machines are hit or miss in audio performance) and some other brands which are okay. It's your pick.
There are also stereo receivers. They can only power 2.1 at the max but offer better audio quality (most of the time). A couple have strong built in amps like the Harman Kardon HK 3490. It has 2 (channels) x 120w (or 120w per channel) @ 8ohms unlike other ones which are usually under 100w but it depends. You can have a 50w AV or stereo receiver and it would still be able to power speakers.
If you really want a DAC, amp, and preamp separate, we can all recommend some. The Maverick Audio TubeMagic D1 is a great DAC. The Cambridge Audio DACMagic is a great DAC too. Maverick Audio has an okay amp too. Preamplifiers are usually from the big companies in the AV separates group or in just the plain amp group. Hope this helped!

Edit-sorry for the huge, single paragraph. I'll fix it.

Edit-The Denon AH-D2000 is a bit better than the AudioTechnica ATH-A700/A700/M50/M50s. Check www.headphone.com (HeadRoom).

Edit-With that budget, just get a receiver and the Sennheiser 800D .

Edit-Ask us any questions. We'll be happy to help!
Edited by HybridCore - 4/5/11 at 4:25am
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i have ms-1 which is pretty similar to a ms-1i , in my experience they arent good for fps gaming at all. every sound is cramped into a small space at the centre. for other genres of games they might be ok but in general i wouldnt use them to game.

those dt-100 look very good and they should work better than ms-1i for gaming
The thing is, people always say they have a very open "soundstage" and good "placement"

generally they're referring to like, an orchestra where you can hear where all the sections are relevant to the microphone,

I just assumed that would then transfer into gaming?
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Okay, looks like I've missed a lot over a couple of hours of rest. Anyways, a receiver is basically an all-in-one. A digital-to-analog converter is what it is, no matter what. The DAC decodes the audio from digital to, obviously, analog like in the name.
The preamp and amp power the signal to a much more powerful signal speakers, subwoofers (exceptions), and headphones can receiver and output. There's an exception to subwoofers and woofers. Some have a built in amplifier which means you can just give it an analog signal and it will be able to amplify it on its own and send parts of that amplified signal to the speakers that the speakers can output (mid-high ranged sounds. Some speakers have a woofer and tweeter so it can produce both high and low sounds so it can take the place of a subwoofer or woofer).
Onkyo, Marantz (heard by Denon from reading a thread), Denon, and Yamaha are pretty good brands. Pioneer isn't really doing well right now. I would go with Marantz due to your high budget. Onkyo is great too. It can word for low and high budgets. There are other brands like Sherwood (most machines are hit or miss in audio performance) and some other brands which are okay. It's your pick.
There are also stereo receivers. They can only power 2.1 at the max but offer better audio quality (most of the time). A couple have strong built in amps like the Harman Kardon HK 3490. It has 2 (channels) x 120w (or 120w per channel) @ 8ohms unlike other ones which are usually under 100w but it depends. You can have a 50w AV or stereo receiver and it would still be able to power speakers.
If you really want a DAC, amp, and preamp separate, we can all recommend some. The Maverick Audio TubeMagic D1 is a great DAC. The Cambridge Audio DACMagic is a great DAC too. Maverick Audio has an okay amp too. Preamplifiers are usually from the big companies in the AV separates group or in just the plain amp group. Hope this helped!

Edit-sorry for the huge, single paragraph. I'll fix it.

Edit-The Denon AH-D2000 is a bit better than the AudioTechnica ATH-A700/A700/M50/M50s. Check www.headphone.com (HeadRoom).

Edit-With that budget, just get a receiver and the Sennheiser 800D .

Edit-Ask us any questions. We'll be happy to help!
WoW Thank You So Much O_O.

I have a few other question.. For example there is this guy I am trying to explain to that an analog signal from a headset is way better than a USB digital signal from a headset like the G35. He keeps saying its not -_-. I am like bro first of all its fake 7.1 and second of all you have a soundcard built into the headset versus me getting a really good one and blowing yours away.

2. Isn't 2.1 better for gaming than virtual 7.1, because getting a really good sound card and some audiophile headphones would beast any gimmick gaming headset out there. I know most audiophiles use 2.1 Stereo so I was wondering.
    
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WoW Thank You So Much O_O.

I have a few other question.. For example there is this guy I am trying to explain to that an analog signal from a headset is way better than a USB digital signal from a headset like the G35. He keeps saying its not -_-. I am like bro first of all its fake 7.1 and second of all you have a soundcard built into the headset versus me getting a really good one and blowing yours away.

2. Isn't 2.1 better for gaming than virtual 7.1, because getting a really good sound card and some audiophile headphones would beast any gimmick gaming headset out there. I know most audiophiles use 2.1 Stereo so I was wondering.
Its not so much the fact that its digital compared to analog. In this case its the fact that using a USB headset will by pass your sound card. In the case of the G35, they have a built in DAC inline with the USB. So, if you have a Xonar STX, for example, it gets bypassed and ignored because of the shotty inline DAC on the phones.

I realize I could go into more detail, but this gets the point across.
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Its not so much the fact that its digital compared to analog. In this case its the fact that using a USB headset will by pass your sound card. In the case of the G35, they have a built in DAC inline with the USB. So, if you have a Xonar STX, for example, it gets bypassed and ignored because of the shotty inline DAC on the phones.
I just want a solid reason to out smart this kid because I know analog with a soundcard is way better than his G35, its just I am not much of a audiophile so I can't support it with solid eveidence.

But also my question... 2.1 vs 7.1 for gaming... all headphones are stereo its just the gimmick 7.1 headphones are virtual. I think 2.1 is the best imo...
    
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