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On top of that the STX and ST are basically the same card with very minute differences.
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Originally Posted by Moltar View Post
Isn't the ST and the STX the same thing except the STX is a PCI-E interface where as the ST is a PCI? If I remember correctly, they both have the same components except for the bus interface.
No. The ST uses an additional IC for clock tuning called the CS2000. It makes a noticable difference in audio quality between the two cards. The STX does in fact sound a bit metallic when comparing the two. A reviewer at newegg who had tried both cards had mentioned this.

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Jitter Reduction:

This is one of the main variations between the Essence STX and the Essence ST. The ST has precision timing made possible by the CS2000 chip. For those interested we will explain a little about jitter and timing.

The CS2000 is used on the ST to clean-up the clocking signal from the main XO.

The actual clock is the same on both the STX and ST, however the ST has this extra IC to "fine tune" the signal by reducing jitter in the clock signal. To put it simply, Jitter is a term used to describe discrete timing errors on the rising and falling edge of the clocking signal.

Since the clocking signal is basically the "Heart Beat" of any digital circuit, these errors in the timing can influence the digital to analog conversion or analog to digital conversion and other circuits.
Please see here: http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-x...luxe-review/10

Edit: Sorry for the delay in response.
Edited by Interpolation - 4/5/11 at 12:53pm
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I just want a solid reason to out smart this kid because I know analog with a soundcard is way better than his G35, its just I am not much of a audiophile so I can't support it with solid eveidence.

But also my question... 2.1 vs 7.1 for gaming... all headphones are stereo its just the gimmick 7.1 headphones are virtual. I think 2.1 is the best imo...
Yes, 7.1 is all virtual and a gimmick. As for how the G35 actually simulate the 7.1, I'm not sure.

A good way to shut your friend up is just let him listen to the 2 once you get your new cans in.
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No. The ST uses an additional IC for clock tuning called the CS2000. It makes a noticable difference in audio quality between the two cards. The STX does in fact sound a bit metallic when comparing the two. A reviewer at newegg who had tried both cards had mentioned this.



Please see here: http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-x...luxe-review/10
So your going by a Newegg review and some unknown review on guru3d? Doesn't that site specialize in video and not audio? I trust the guys at Head-Fi a lot more than guru3d. Check this thread on Head-fi.org out.

The 2 cards are so close the difference is indistinguishable. The only reason, to get one or the other is the PCI bus that is needed for your setup.

By the way, I have heard both cards and can tell you that the difference is inaudible, at least to me on a pair of A700's with no amp.
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What Moltar said for USB vs Analog and 7.1.
Edited by HybridCore - 4/5/11 at 1:15pm
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So your going by a Newegg review and some unknown review on guru3d? Doesn't that site specialize in video and not audio? I trust the guys at Head-Fi a lot more than guru3d. Check this thread on Head-fi.org out.

The 2 cards are so close the difference is indistinguishable. The only reason, to get one or the other is the PCI bus that is needed for your setup.

By the way, I have heard both cards and can tell you that the difference is inaudible, at least to me on a pair of A700's with no amp.
I am getting the STX and not the HT Omega Plus+ that I thought I was going to get after reading a lot of reviews. Its PCI-E so thats one thing I like about it, also the built in am and such. I like Asus as a company so I trust them.

*EDIT* I have decided what sound card I want but not sure on the cans I am getting. A700 is most likely it but I do have a $400 top budget for a good pair of audiophile headphones for gaming.
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All of the Asus Xonar Essence cards (ST and STX) are great. HT Omega is a great brand. Even that is considered overkill. Creative has only one card worth looking at which is the Titanium HD. Still, Asus and HT Omega are a bit better. Asus is a great brand. I would get their things if you're looking for a new rig or upgrade. Some laptops and definitely all of their netbooks (which are all Eee PC).
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The key here is do you want to spend all of that $400 on a set of new cans? If so, I would suggest either picking up a a set of Denon 2000's, Beyerdynamic DT880s/990's, Sennheiser 650's, or the Audio Technica AD900's. All of these will give you great sound but will be better suited for different musical tastes.

The Denon's are very well suited for movie watchers while the Beyeredynamic's are excellent for rock. this is not to say either cannot be used for the other.
Edited by Moltar - 4/5/11 at 1:26pm
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The key here is do you want to spend all of that $400 on a set of new cans?
If it gets me a really nice pair of headphones then yes. List your top 5 or so Headpones in the $400 range and Ill take a look at them
    
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If it gets me a really nice pair of headphones then yes. List your top 5 or so Headpones in the $400 range and Ill take a look at them
Check my original post. I made an edit. If it were up to me I would choose the Denon AHD2000's. Their bass is exceptional for the price point. To me, they offer the most for you in the $400 price range.
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Check out Headphone.com/HeadRoom's review. It made it on the Top 10 Headphones list right above the AudioTechnica ATH-M50/M50s. It has the best value compared to its two older brothers, the 5000 and 7000. I'm going to get those if I can't find a better value for $400 with most likely the upcoming Onkyo TX-8050 or the TX-NR509 (more powerful but I don't know about sound quality).
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