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Amd sempron 140 with 4250 video ,158 g3d rating

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.625057

vs

Zacate with 6310 video ,203 g3d rating

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-698-_-Product


vs

Zacate , not sure of on board video as it is not listed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-698-_-Product



Who wins here for playback and streaming? How close are the other 2?

Ive done my own research and cant seem to come up with the clear winner between zacate with 6310 and the sempron 140 with hd4250 , 880g mobo


I used this website to compare video

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php



EDIT: throwing this really cheap (but out of stock) zacate in there. It does list the 6310 video as well. 109 bux.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-228-_-Product
Edited by bloomstomb - 4/4/11 at 8:02am
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The differences between them can be summed up like this:
*Sempron 140 one fast core & weak IGP vs a Zecate 2 slow cores & fast IGP
*as a processor the Sempron is faster per thread (more clock speed, faster per clock); Zecate can take two threads albeit slower each than the single one ran on the Sempron
*the 6310 is much faster than the 4250 and supports better hardware acceleration of video playback

I would go for the E-350 if it's only for video playback and other media tasks, for anything more powerful an Athlon II would be needed.
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OK thanks. In that case, Im thinking about adding a 4650 to the equation and going with something cheaper than 880g, and sticking with the sempron..

I really do like the zacate, but 2 things that bug me about it is that it just doesnt pack enough punch to play 1080p flash, and still some ironing out left (like silverlight support).

Your thoughts on that?

Heres the video card im looking at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-829-_-Product
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OP, thanks for this thread. I actually had this very same question for a build for my older brother. I think I'm gonna go with the cheaper Biostar board and that 4650. Should be perfect for him, with no more than an duel core Athlon II.
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OP, thanks for this thread. I actually had this very same question for a build for my older brother. I think I'm gonna go with the cheaper Biostar board and that 4650. Should be perfect for him, with no more than an duel core Athlon II.
I wonder if I can get away with the single core sempron . I dont want to gamble about unlocking it. If I get it I will run it with a single core, but is this going to bottleneck my system a great deal?
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I wonder if I can get away with the single core sempron . I dont want to gamble about unlocking it. If I get it I will run it with a single core, but is this going to bottleneck my system a great deal?
Digs in media center....................... a E5200 (@3.0) and 1, 2 GB stick of DDR2 900 with a 4650 512 GDDR2 does just fine for anything, including BRD.
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the sempron should be fine, with a 4650/4670
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It's difficult to quantify the "need" of a dual core in a media rig, this to say one may find it useful, others may not. A dual processor (and a quad looking forward) has some "reserve" every time you do something that doesn't fully push the core(s). Media 1080p playback can push a CPU pretty hard, a single core Sempron may be close to its limit (though I may be wrong), and the 4650 doesn't support all the tech accelerated by the 6310. Most of everything would run on the CPU, the 4650 can accelerate only some parts of the decoding and can't accelerate DXVA content (aka FF4, IE9, Chrome10+ rendered pages).
In my opinion between the Sempron+4650 and the E-350+6310 for media I'd still pick the E-350; the 4650 doesn't add much really. A 5570 DDR5 or a 5650 would radically change things in favor of the Sempron, but at that point you might as well get an Athlon II & IGP.

/offtopic: most of the time I hate saying "you should wait a month or so as something great will show up", but in this case it's true. What you're searching for is something faster than a E-350 CPU-wise, but which has the same media features and that is cheap. CLICK here. You need the faster Fusion, the Llano; it should launch soon enough. The dual core Llano w/ 160sp is better suited than any of the above options for media playback.
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