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The Noctua NH-D14 is one heck of a cooler!
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You didn't read the opening post, did you?
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Originally Posted by Biokinetica View Post

Yeah, but what about the quality of the components? I know it's like the pot calling the kettle black since I have an acetal waterblock in that parts list, but those parts were very carefully chosen. Are there any reviews that can vouch for the quality of those kits? I remember Thermaltake trying to do something like this in the past; it was called "Big Water"...
These RASA kits are the bomb for the price. Why do they sell so cheap well think volume sales.

All the parts that are in the kit can be purchased separately but at a greater price.

Also a lot of people are using it, but if your looking to improve the kit then the first part to get replaced is the pump.

As people have said, go to the water cooling forums and ask how good these kits are.
It's now at the point that EK offer a 240 and 360 kit now, it's dearer than the rasa kit's but these have most components that you can get off the shelf and they carry the name of EK.


I'll do you a comparison.:

XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit $199.00

incl:

# Rasa Black Acetal CPU Waterblock
# Socket 775, 1366 and 1155/1156 Backplates
# Socket AM2 and AM3 mounting kit
# X2O 750 12V Pump/Reservoir
# 5mm Blue LED with 4Pin Molex
# RX360 Radiator
# 80mm to 120mm Radiator brackets
# 3 x Low Noise 1700rpm 120mm Fans
# 3 x 120mm Fan Grills
# 2m of clear 7/16" tubing
# 6 x 1/2" barbs
# 1 x Thermal Paste

Ok so here's a comparison.

# XSPC RASA Black CPU Water Block -$69.00
(requires you to order AMD mount as an extra)
# XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25” Bay Reservoir Pump (short)-$69.50
# XSPC RX360 Radiator -$129.00
# Radiical® Radiator "Bug Legs" Stand Off Kit (rebrand XSPC)-$15.00
# Zalman ZM-F3 120mm Case Fan -$9.50*3= $ 28.50
# Chrome Fan Grill 120mm-$2.50*3= $7.50
# Radiical Tubing 7/16" ID 5/8" OD 3/32" Wall Tubing- $8.50 pM*2=$17.00
# EK 12mm High Flow Fitting G1/4-$3.50*6=$21.00

So you are looking at spending about $356.50 minus the shipping to buy all the parts separately in Australia.
Not to mention ordering the AMD mounting bracket and what not.

But the point is that you spend more to pick an choose parts.
Edited by smash_mouth01 - 4/9/11 at 8:02pm
post #34 of 42
Get a Noctua DH-14. Retails for $90. This air cooler out performs the Corsair H70 water cooler.
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post #35 of 42
Out of the ones listed, I'd say Mugen 2 would be awesome. However, it's hard to recommend compared to other coolers because of its size and the fact that the fan it comes with honestly isn't great. At all. When I first built my rig, switching from the Slipstream it came with to a SickleFlow dropped temps by around 4C instantly. Adding a second fan dropped temps another 3-4C. And SF's aren't exactly great fans, either, just cheap. If you're willing to get new fans, Mugen 2 performs extremely well, and seems to scale decently with better fans.
post #36 of 42
As an owner of a Mugen 2 and a D14, I'd warn you away from the Mugen 2. Too hard to mount. If you have the funds I'd recommend an Archon: it's the best cooler, according to the reviews, and it will fit in your case despite its 170mm height.

Of the 160mm tall heatsinks, the best (by less than 1c) cooler and the quietest (by at least 3dB) is the Silver Arrow. I get my D14 quieter by using a TY-140 (same fan as SA) in the middle and a pair of Gentle Typhoon AP-14's as push-pull. But I have lots of fans - testing them is a hobby of mine - so I have fans to experiment with. For normal users, the Archon is the best and the SA is the second best.

Where the D14 shines is in coping with tall RAM heatsinks. Here it is with Ripjaws:



But you have Mushkin Blacklines, which are the same height as the Redlines, which I have. My Ripjaws go to 44mm tall; the Redlines 40mm tall. Since I have seen a pic where the Silver Arrow fits over Ripjaws, a SA will fit over your Blacklines.

But any of the three top heatsinks will work perfectly fine with your RAM and case, and allow you to OC your chip to the max.
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post #37 of 42
Just received archon it's awesome looks beautiful too and on my board doesn't block anything
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Originally Posted by Biokinetica View Post
And I can't decide.

Aside from the Thermalright GodArrow and the Noctua Jesus14, I'm having trouble deciding what the best performance cooler/fan setup will be.

I'm currently eyeing the Hyper 212+, Titan Fenrir, Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, and Venomous X (with a fan).

Sig rig is the target. Advice?
Dude, go water if your gonna go to 4. I havent even messed with my E7300's clock speeds yet because its still on air. Im waitin for my liquid cooling setup for working on ocing it. Once on water, I plan on trying to get to 4 ghz.
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post #39 of 42
if you plan to OC your 1090T to 4000, you have to go with D14,SA or archon.
Now Im running 1055T@4000, 1.4v with D14 (p14 as push, TY in middle-both@800RPM) in raven 2 evolution (one of the best air cooled cases) and in LINX I have 54C...in summer It will be at least 57-58 and max for x6 is 62C

so go with the big boys (D14,SA,archon with dual fan setup-ty140)
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As an owner of a Mugen 2 and a D14, I'd warn you away from the Mugen 2. Too hard to mount. If you have the funds I'd recommend an Archon: it's the best cooler, according to the reviews, and it will fit in your case despite its 170mm height.

Of the 160mm tall heatsinks, the best (by less than 1c) cooler and the quietest (by at least 3dB) is the Silver Arrow. I get my D14 quieter by using a TY-140 (same fan as SA) in the middle and a pair of Gentle Typhoon AP-14's as push-pull. But I have lots of fans - testing them is a hobby of mine - so I have fans to experiment with. For normal users, the Archon is the best and the SA is the second best.

Where the D14 shines is in coping with tall RAM heatsinks.

But you have Mushkin Blacklines, which are the same height as the Redlines, which I have. My Ripjaws go to 44mm tall; the Redlines 40mm tall. Since I have seen a pic where the Silver Arrow fits over Ripjaws, a SA will fit over your Blacklines.

But any of the three top heatsinks will work perfectly fine with your RAM and case, and allow you to OC your chip to the max.
I've been thinking about the Archon lately and may just hold off on Shogun 2 until some huge deal. Civ V should be enough for now. Not much in the way of 140mm fans, though.


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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01 View Post
These RASA kits are the bomb for the price. Why do they sell so cheap well think volume sales.

All the parts that are in the kit can be purchased separately but at a greater price.

Also a lot of people are using it, but if your looking to improve the kit then the first part to get replaced is the pump.

As people have said, go to the water cooling forums and ask how good these kits are.
It's now at the point that EK offer a 240 and 360 kit now, it's dearer than the rasa kit's but these have most components that you can get off the shelf and they carry the name of EK.


I'll do you a comparison.:

XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit $199.00

incl:

# Rasa Black Acetal CPU Waterblock
# Socket 775, 1366 and 1155/1156 Backplates
# Socket AM2 and AM3 mounting kit
# X2O 750 12V Pump/Reservoir
# 5mm Blue LED with 4Pin Molex
# RX360 Radiator
# 80mm to 120mm Radiator brackets
# 3 x Low Noise 1700rpm 120mm Fans
# 3 x 120mm Fan Grills
# 2m of clear 7/16" tubing
# 6 x 1/2" barbs
# 1 x Thermal Paste

Ok so here's a comparison.

# XSPC RASA Black CPU Water Block -$69.00
(requires you to order AMD mount as an extra)
# XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25” Bay Reservoir Pump (short)-$69.50
# XSPC RX360 Radiator -$129.00
# Radiical® Radiator "Bug Legs" Stand Off Kit (rebrand XSPC)-$15.00
# Zalman ZM-F3 120mm Case Fan -$9.50*3= $ 28.50
# Chrome Fan Grill 120mm-$2.50*3= $7.50
# Radiical Tubing 7/16" ID 5/8" OD 3/32" Wall Tubing- $8.50 pM*2=$17.00
# EK 12mm High Flow Fitting G1/4-$3.50*6=$21.00

So you are looking at spending about $356.50 minus the shipping to buy all the parts separately in Australia.
Not to mention ordering the AMD mounting bracket and what not.

But the point is that you spend more to pick an choose parts.
I guess I'd trust EK, but that kit I mentioned had all sorts of issues, which is why I'm skeptical.
Edited by Biokinetica - 4/13/11 at 4:59pm
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