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Have you listened to the 650 yet?
This is also a great point. I've heard the HD650 and I didn't like them - I fully expected to but they were just not for me. Buying headphones blind is quite a risk, my earlier post about starting off cheaper was trying to make the same point as RallyMaster; by starting of at the lower end and upgrading you will start to learn those things which you like or dislike. You can then use that knowledge to help attain the best setup you can afford.

It's hard to explain how you like or don't like the sound signature of certain headphones, I guess it's just the same as how some people like certain foods and others do not. Nobody is trying to put you off buying headphones, just warning you that jumping straight in at the deep end might not be the best way forward.
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I love the 650 for everything, they are perfect for me I don't listen to electronica though, so I can't comment on that.

I'd say, get the a soundcard, if you wanna game with Dolby Headphone. Otherwise, get an external DAC.
Amp, just get a FiiO E9. It's a great budget amp.
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post #23 of 44
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This is also a great point. I've heard the HD650 and I didn't like them - I fully expected to but they were just not for me. Buying headphones blind is quite a risk, my earlier post about starting off cheaper was trying to make the same point as RallyMaster; by starting of at the lower end and upgrading you will start to learn those things which you like or dislike. You can then use that knowledge to help attain the best setup you can afford.

It's hard to explain how you like or don't like the sound signature of certain headphones, I guess it's just the same as how some people like certain foods and others do not. Nobody is trying to put you off buying headphones, just warning you that jumping straight in at the deep end might not be the best way forward.
That's very true, as 650s, while great headphones, aren't universally loved. Some find them to be lacking in the "fun" department. Honestly, for your intended uses and musical tastes I would probably look at something from the Denon line.
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AudioTech 2k to 5k were great for electro, I even liked it on the A500.
    
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I think i'm leaning towards the FiiO E7+E9 combo. Thougts?
Also, thanks for all the help so far, I'll +REP accordingly.
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post #26 of 44
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I think i'm leaning towards the FiiO E7+E9 combo. Thougts?
Also, thanks for all the help so far, I'll +REP accordingly.
That combo should do the job just fine, both of those get good reviews from many different audio forums, you get the benefit of an external DAC + the amp to drive the hd650 in the end i think you'll be happy with the resulting sound.
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That combo should do the job just fine, both of those get good reviews from many different audio forums, you get the benefit of an external DAC + the amp to drive the hd650 in the end i think you'll be happy with the resulting sound.
Great, I'm definitely looking forward to it.
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post #28 of 44
hd650/600 really needs a nice amp to show its true potential.. preferably tube

my combo was pico dac -> woo audio 6 -> hd600

sounds amazing with tubes... id recommend a little dot tube amp if you cant afford a woo audio

ive tried the gilmore lite with it too, but didnt sound as good

btw i didnt read the whole thread but i just noticed you said you mostly listen to electronic.. why do you want the hd650's? there are better options for that genre, especially at that price

you should start lower, like i said, hd650 needs a nice source/amp to show their true potential, so if you're not ready to invest, you're better off going with a lower priced headphone that doesnt need amping, for electronic i think ultrasones are the best choice... the shure srh840 is also an excellent neutral/comfortable headphone that dosent require amping.. hell, even a $40 JVC RX700 will be a night & day upgrade from your steelseries headset
Edited by koven - 4/5/11 at 4:38pm
post #29 of 44
Try to find the NuForce HDP on sale in your country.

Those should do your 650s well.

Again, like many have said. Buying audio equipment this highly priced can be a huge mistake. Make sure you like the sound signature Sennheiser gives you before buying them. They can easily be found at any decent audio store.
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post #30 of 44
I think you need to rethink your headphone choice before dropping that much money on your first pair of real headphones. Electronic and rock are exactly the genres that HD650s don't sound that great with. I'm speaking from personal experience here. The sound signature of 650s go a lot better with jazz, classical, piano, and other instrumental genres. For electronic, rap/pop, and rock, I strongly suggest you look at the HD600s or something from Beyerdynamic as they tend to be more neutral sounding. HD650s are warm and laid back, which generally is not what one would want for your tastes.

Since HD650s are open-backed the bass is going to stuffer unless you have a serious amp behind them. The 650s are considered a bit bass heavy, but that only really shows up once you have them hooked up to something respectable. I heard the difference first hand when I stepped up from a HT Omega Claro Halo to my Woo Audio amp. It was as if the subwoofer was finally turned on.

I don't intend to come across as condescending but none of the amps mentioned so far will fully utilize the 650s. Personally I don't even feel that my setup full utilizes them.

Also, you'll probably want a solid state amp, not one that uses vacuum tubes. Tubes, again, are a bit laid back, warmer, lack precise detail, and don't have the bass that solid state can provide. Tubes pair well with HD650s because they highlight the existing warm and smooth characteristics.
Edited by groundzero9 - 4/5/11 at 5:07pm
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