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560 TF2 review. Right between a 6950 and 6970...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n5...r-ii-review/11
I'm not biased either way, but that is 6950 STOCK. The 6950 oc'd [on that same site, will link if i get a chance] scored about 200 higher in 3dmark 11. That would really not be noticeable at all.

At the end of the day, fanboyism aside, it's really a coin flip. For me the decision was "hey, this one (560 TFII) is really close and is much cooler/quieter. I'll go with it!"

If you want the extra bit of performance, want better multi monitor support, don't care as much about temps/noise, or play at high res and need the 2GB VRAM, then go for the 6950. If you like CUDA or want to GPU fold or aren't playing at super high res or like bells & whistles like physX then go for the 560.

EDIT: I should also mention that Palit makes a 2gb version of the 560ti which is priced at 270 on newegg. Worth a look if you want the 2GB interface and have your heart set on going for an nvidia card

No need to argue and pick sides, try taking a look through an objective lens [all of you guys arguing].


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I'm not biased either way, but that is 6950 STOCK. The 6950 oc'd [on that same site, will link if i get a chance] scored about 200 higher in 3dmark 11. That would really not be noticeable at all.
yes, but it has the stock 560 also. You can see in a few the stock 560 is ahead of a stock 6950. Sometimes its the other way. I have not researched the max OC capabilities of a 6950, but on those same benchmarks, you can see the MAX OC of a 560 in the Gigabyte 560 SOC and its up their on the list in those comparisons. I assume we all buy these cards just for the cooling, not the midrange aftermarket OC, right?

Agreed, the 560 and 6950 are similar cards. I'm sure I came across as a fan boy, I'm not realy. I dont care if a 6950 walks all over a 560. It was just clear to me Stefy was being an ATI fanboy.
    
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yes, but it has the stock 560 also. You can see in a few the stock 560 is ahead of a stock 6950. Sometimes its the other way. I have not researched the max OC capabilities of a 6950, but on those same benchmarks, you can see the MAX OC of a 560 in the Gigabyte 560 SOC and its up their on the list in those comparisons. I assume we all buy these cards just for the cooling, not the midrange aftermarket OC, right?

Agreed, the 560 and 6950 are similar cards. I'm sure I came across as a fan boy, I'm not realy. I dont care if a 6950 walks all over a 560. It was just clear to me Stefy was being an ATI fanboy.
Perfectly understandable! People naturally want to defend their purchases, so overzealous brand preference is sure to happen. It's just good to try and give an objective suggestion instead of recommending something just because of brand like a lot of people tend to do.
    
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Wow, lose the attitude. This is supposed to be a friendly helpful place. I wasn't twisting anything, I simply said that was the only bench I found and I WAS ASKING FOR MORE...

Step away from the keyboard.
i agree. people need to chill out a bit over benches. they both perform awesomely and doesn't really matter. if anything i'd get a 560 because it's not 12 inches long lol.
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560 TF2 review.
The 560 comes in a Team Fortress 2 edition?!? Does it come with a hat?
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The 560 comes in a Team Fortress 2 edition?!? Does it come with a hat?


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Going by that benchmark, unfortunetly it doesn't show a 560 that is overclocked. However, an overclocked 560 is basically barely below a stock 570, which would be ahead of the 6950 TF3 by quite a bit. Probably ahead of the 6970 stock also...

The 560 TF2 is probably right between a 6950 TF3 and a 6970 stock.

Edit: I mean, a stock 560 is ahead of the stock 6950 2GB. The 560's OC like crazy, probably one of the best OC'ing nVidia cards available. I dont really see how the 6950 itself is a better card. ?? <-- That point mainly for Stefy.
Only if you play at low resolutions like 1024x768 lol (In which case, why would you buy a $200+ graphics card?)
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I've seen plenty of people at the '500 Series Owners Club' that have 1GHz on the GTX 560ti so it's very over clockable and stable.

The AMD 6950 is a great card as well. Both come close to stock performance as you can tell by that AMD 6950 Review.

The OP didn't list his specs in his bio so not sure if he's going to run three monitors or his resolution.

If he's only got one or two monitors with 1920x1200 resolution then the GTX 560ti is his choice. He won't hit the vram wall.

If he's got three monitors or larger resolution the AMD 6950 would be the way to go.

Btw, the MSI Twin Frozr II or III (Hawk) are great cards that keep the pcb very cool. I had an AMD 6870 TFII that got 1Ghz core clock at nicely low temps. So regardless if it's on an AMD or Nvidia pcb it's an awesome cooling. Neither card have heat issues so it's a moot point that he'll have problems in Crossfire or SLI as well.

My choice in this thread is the GTX 560ti and then SLI down the road when games start to over come it eventually.

Let us know which way you went and give us the update.
     
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Only if you play at low resolutions like 1024x768 lol (In which case, why would you buy a $200+ graphics card?)
That's not correct. Why try to exaggerate?
    
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That's not correct. Why try to exaggerate?
Not correct?

Stock GTX560Ti faster than stock Radeon HD 6950 @ 1024x768


Stock GTX560Ti slower than stock Radeon HD 6950 @ 1920x1200
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