Originally Posted by Levesque
And since you come on OCN, and take the time to post, you are an enthusiast.Or else, you wouldn't come here. It's not a forum about ''which kind of peanut better do you prefer''. And I'm sure your CPU is overclock like crazy, like everyone else here.
So why buy a 700$ card that was not meant for enthusiasts? Give me an honest answer here. Why are you trying to defend it like that? Because you bought one?
In the 590 thread in the Nvidia forum, EVERYONE is talking about the throttling, OCP and overclocking problems of the 590. So, people are really CONCERNED about those facts. Don't lie here. Don't tell me it doesn't bother you at all that Nvidia is hard-locking your card in the drivers and that you can't overclock it, just like your CPU. Be honest.
The AUSUM 6990 BIOS doesn't have any TDP limits, no throttling, and PowerTune is only working in the other default BIOS. AMD gave us a true enthusiast card with 2 BIOS, so we can have fun with the card, since 1 BIOS is totally free of any throttling, PowerTune, OCP ar any other limiters.
So why do enthusiast buy the non-enthusiast card between those 2? I'm just curious. Why all the talk about overclocking in the 590 thread then if it doesn't bother anyone? Because it does. That's all. Everyone who bought a 590 is really concerned by this, but they are not able/not willing to say it. Because they bought one, they are just trying to justify that expense. Psycological behavior 101.
Nvidia's owners are pointing fingers at me because it annoys them to be reminded of those facts about the 590 vs 6990. No one likes to be reminded that for ther price, there is better out there. Plain and simple. So they need someone to lash out the frustration, make personnal attack etc. And it's me. No problem. And since english is my third language, my message is not always passing like I would want to. I'm sorry for that. What i write is not exactly always what I want to say. But try to write in your 3rd language (if you talk more then 1...) like I do, and then flame me for my lack of grammatical and syntax perfection.
So why would I stop? We are all free to post what we want. If you can't deal with the fact that the 6990 is a better enthusiast card, then just skip my posts. Or is it because it makes you regret your purchase and questionning your personnal choices?
Originally Posted by Levesque
And why do you care what I care about the 590?
Because, at the subcouncious level, you're not happy with the 590.
And you own a 590. That's why you care. Skip my post! But you can't, because you're trying to justify your expense while everyone is writing everywhere things like that: ''590 will catch on fire! FAIL! worst card ever, who is stupid enough to buy 2 of those, etc'', so IT IS bothering you ALOT. Deep inside, you don't want to be the ''fool'' who bought 2...
Why do you care what we think about the 590? Not your business. If you are so ''happy'' about your 2 590 you just bought, why do you feel the need to answer my post?
Subconscious thoughts are a powerful thing...
on a subcouncious level you are not happy with your 6990 since you need to stroke your epeen to feel happy about it. You need to put down 590 buyers, your worst competitors (not.) See I can do it too?
To answer your question about why I bought a 590:
1) I used to have crossfired radeon HD 5870s. I had absolute problems with crossfire for whatever reason, and no it was not PEBKAC, I did everything by the book with them. The experience did not please me, so I wanted to see the nvidia side of the story. I'll be honest: I'm not that old, 17, and I haven't been to computers for very long. So I wanted a change of pace.
2) My setup has some size constraints and I did not plan on getting a new case yet, even though my current one is bad.
3) I also did not want to go WC, for now. I have plans of doing so in the future, but for now. no. The 6990 had reviewers saying it's almost the hottest card out there. Do not want.
4) Noise. I hate it, and since I ain't going to watercool in the immediate future I thought the 590 won that aspect too.
5) I play @ 1200p, single display. The benchies of the cards I was we're tied if not even in some cases favoring the 590 (especially the min fps) at my resolution. If the 6990 was winning by a bit, didn't matter. It wouldn't be noticable anyway.
so there ya go. Not satisfied? does that somehow make me not an enthusiast? because I think what I buy and choose the best option for me?
And yes of course I'm worried about the the limited OCing, and what not. I also bought the 590 on release day. Before the issues or should I say rumours started circling. I still believe that the issue is very much blown (no pun intended) out of proportion. Yes the VRMs might be pretty bad but I don't believe for one second that the cards burning are a so widespread issue that you would have to worry about it.
If Nvidia and the AIBs, especially ASUS in my case really start to limit the card and do not fix the issue, I will get my money back on the reason of: false marketing. It's that simple. (limit meaning to the point where it's worse than when I bought it, or does not have features that I would like to have that I had when I made the purchase)
So still a zealot?Edited by Alatar - 4/6/11 at 8:25am