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Lmao!!

And people, For the last time.

There wont be any 'extreme' 3rd party variants the 590...
post #92 of 224
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Why is it that Nvidia can make such awesome SINGLE GPU solutions, or even SLI, but they can't make a damn dual GPU set up on a single PCB without it having some major issues or quirks or whatever?

Not that I'll EVER recommend AMD/ATI for a graphics card, but cmon Nvidia =/
The problem lies with the 580 Fermi part simply being too power hungry / leaky in heavy usage scenarios. NVIDIA has issues putting 1 580 GPU on a single PCB, I think it was over-reaching thinking it could do 2.

Since AMD has fixed its scaling issues with this last GPU generation, it is meeting its price / performance segment with gusto!

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Lmao!!

And people, For the last time.

There wont be any 'extreme' 3rd party variants the 590...
I believe this to be 100% true. All cards in the 590 SKU are to be NVTTM cards. This means no third party models.
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The problem lies with the 580 Fermi part simply being too power hungry / leaky in heavy usage scenarios. NVIDIA has issues putting 1 580 GPU on a single PCB, I think it was over-reaching thinking it could do 2.

Since AMD has fixed its scaling issues with this last GPU generation, it is meeting its price / performance segment with gusto!



I believe this to be 100% true. All cards in the 590 SKU are to be NVTTM cards. This means no third party models.
Care to use less acronyms for us laymen I've got SKU down, but what is NVTTM??
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Care to use less acronyms for us laymen I've got SKU down, but what is NVTTM??
NVTTM = Nvidia time to market.

Basically where Nvidia builds all the cards I think.
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Still lol'ing about this...

Cant believe some people bought TWO of these cards.
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Lmao!!

And people, For the last time.

There wont be any 'extreme' 3rd party variants the 590...

sources on that???
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sources on that???

It's called common sense.

If a Nvidia reference design is being sold for $700 then a custom 3rd party version will easily be pushing $1000+

All vendors are doing at the moment is buying reference cards from Nvidia, Slapping there branded sticker on the heat sink and sticking it in one of there boxes and for that they ask for $700.

Now for a 3rd party design to be able to run those cores without blowing up would require more phases and more importantly higher quality VRM's. Now the reference PCB won't allow that as it's already very tight on PCB space so it'll require a complete new PCB design which isn't a CHEAP thing to design, Not to mension the extra cost of using higher quality VRM's and other PCB components over the reference design, Yet MORE cost.

A new PCB will also need a new cooler design as the reference design will not fit, Cue MORE research and developments costs!

Research and development
Materials
Testing

All of that is required to create a non-reference card and all of that requires cash out-lay, That cash out-lay is recovered from the consumer.

Still think an affordable non-reference card can be done?
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Care to use less acronyms for us laymen I've got SKU down, but what is NVTTM??

The previous poster is correct. NVTTM is NVIDIA Time To Market program which builds cards for Add In Board / AIB partners that cannot do it on their own. The name comes from the fact that NVIDIA will sometimes build the "first batch" of launch cards to make sure all AIB partners can enter the channel close to launch even if that AIB does not have the ability to build the cards itself.

An example of this is EVGA does not have manufacturing capabilities, it farms out ALL of its production. ASUS, MSI, Galaxy do build its own cards and many times do not need help getting production to the shelves.

It is my understanding that the GTX 590 is an NVTTM card only. NVIDIA is not supplying build kits to any of its AIB partners.
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It's called common sense.

If a Nvidia reference design is being sold for $700 then a custom 3rd party version will easily be pushing $1000+

All vendors are doing at the moment is buying reference cards from Nvidia, Slapping there branded sticker on the heat sink and sticking it in one of there boxes and for that they ask for $700.

Now for a 3rd party design to be able to run those cores without blowing up would require more phases and more importantly higher quality VRM's. Now the reference PCB won't allow that as it's already very tight on PCB space so it'll require a complete new PCB design which isn't a CHEAP thing to design, Not to mension the extra cost of using higher quality VRM's and other PCB components over the reference design, Yet MORE cost.

A new PCB will also need a new cooler design as the reference design will not fit, Cue MORE research and developments costs!

Research and development
Materials
Testing

All of that is required to create a non-reference card and all of that requires cash out-lay, That cash out-lay is recovered from the consumer.

Still think an affordable non-reference card can be done?

asus mars comes to mind .... ohh wait nevermind it will cost 1200$ ... wasnt it the price of such a limited run of card ... and yes it got sold fast ...
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