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i remember your words, you said - at stock clk SB is bottlenecking your cards... that´s why you need oc it

i´m asking, do you know, how clockable 4BD cores will be ?
Equivalent to Sandy Bridge both are 32nm plus Bulldozer's core/module design means a cooler processor. The question is how well Bulldozer Core vs Sandy Bridge Core clock for clock.
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post #192 of 236
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i remember your words, you said - at stock clk SB is bottlenecking your cards... that´s why you need oc it

i´m asking, do you know, how clockable 4BD cores will be ?
I don't care about stock.

This isn't your AMD website where people are unaware of what hardware really does.

I'm telling you it doesn't matter how clockable 4BD cores will be if SB is capable of maxing out my GPUs than it could be 100034324324 times faster and it wouldn't matter one bit to me.

Let me try again.

I bought SB months ago because my Phenom II x6 @ 4.4GHz couldn't handle a single gtx 470. So I bought SB and it was so fast it made my gtx 470 look slow. So I got another gtx 470. I still have 99% usage any almost everything I've ever tested. Games that do bottleneck the cards are still close to 100 fps average or higher anyways.

At this time adding more cpu power would do nothing for me because I am not buying another video card nor will I be upgrading to more gpu power any time soon. My next card will be either either AMD or Nvidia next gen.


Does that help? For what I need SB provides. Having more cpu power than I need to push my gpus is a waste. AMD can't provide the power I need, Intel can. I have that power, getting more is not needed right now.

D o y o u s e e w h a t I a m s a y i n g n o w?



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Equivalent to Sandy Bridge both are 32nm plus Bulldozer's core/module design means a cooler processor. The question is how well Bulldozer Core vs Sandy Bridge Core clock for clock.
It also matters how well its designed and how good the power gates are and a list of other things. I wasn't aware that my SB chip hitting 60C in 65F ambient on water at 5GHz was considered a hot chip.


Bloomfield is 45nm, so is the 955. The i7-720 clocks higher and performs better per clock than the 955 however. Yet both are 45nm.
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2600K is faster but if you already have the 1055t then its not really worth the time, and cost.
    
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post #194 of 236
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It also matters how well its designed and how good the power gates are and a list of other things. I wasn't aware that my SB chip hitting 60C in 65F ambient on water at 5GHz was considered a hot chip.


Bloomfield is 45nm, so is the 955. The i7-720 clocks higher and performs better per clock than the 955 however. Yet both are 45nm.
The Phenom II 955(C2) clocks the same as the Core i7 920(C0) average 3.8Ghz. The Core i7 920(D0) would reach 4.2Ghz while the Phenom II 955(C3) would reach 4Ghz but we learned Phenoms love the cold. I wasn't aware that I mentioned anything about your processor being cool or hot... but look at the new Phenoms they average 4.2Ghz

Hopefully thats full load because my Xeon with HT on hits 74C(load) in 80F ambient.

Your right about a Phenom not able to handle a GTX 470... only when I ran vantage

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...esults-23.html

I averaged 88 FPS with a Phenom II 940 @ 3.72Ghz same as a Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz with the same GTX 470 clocks.
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The Phenom II 955(C2) clocks the same as the Core i7 920(C0) average 3.8Ghz. The Core i7 920(D0) would reach 4.2Ghz while the Phenom II 955(C3) would reach 4Ghz but we learned Phenoms love the cold. I wasn't aware that I mentioned anything about your processor being cool or hot... but look at the new Phenoms they average 4.2Ghz

Hopefully thats full load because my Xeon with HT on hits 74C(load) in 80F ambient.
Phenoms love LN2 and Phase Change, D0 chips however will clock higher than Phenom IIs on ambient water cooling. Also considering how much better the clock for clock is a Phenom II at 4.2GHz isn't even as fast as a 1366 at way less, probably 3.6, maybe even lower.

I don't really track "new" phenoms anymore. I've had enough to know what I got and what others were getting a few months ago.

No I idle at 60C and load at 120C.
    
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Phenoms love LN2 and Phase Change, D0 chips however will clock higher than Phenom IIs on ambient water cooling. Also considering how much better the clock for clock is a Phenom II at 4.2GHz isn't even as fast as a 1366 at way less, probably 3.6, maybe even lower.

I don't really track "new" phenoms anymore. I've had enough to know what I got and what others were getting a few months ago.

No I idle at 60C and load at 120C.
Hmm, I wonder why Phenoms are slower clock for clock could it be due to their outdated ARCHITECTURE...

Also you may want to check your loop.
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THANK YOU
Now look in mirror , there is another one
Pretty much this.
How low is he to actually make THAT his pic?
Seriously, does he not know what healthy competition is?
"oh looky here guise im the 'offishul converter of amd peoples'
oh yah and im predicting wat bulldozer will do even tho its not even out"
OP, for gaming a 2500k i5 will do.
Very big difference.
    
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Hmm, I wonder why Phenoms are slower clock for clock could it be due to their outdated ARCHITECTURE...

Also you may want to check your loop.
Yes and since they've been working on BD since what, 2006 or before its pretty outdated already isn't it?

Nah my loop is fine, SB just run really hot. I've had it over 9000 already.
    
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