Originally Posted by De-Zant
Mental state? I'm looking at it too.
What I'm saying is confirmed fact. What he is saying relates to religion. I won't comment there, but it can't even be called a theory. It's a random thought. I don't deny that there is a feint chance of a soul existing, but for now, I see no reason to believe in one. Until I know something (note: this only refers to questions about life and science and origins) for fact, I don't accept it.
However, I think that there might just be some things in our brains that computers can't capture / record perfectly. I don't believe that WE can ever live forever, since it won't be the same atoms, the same electrical pulses in the computer. It just recorded a flash of happens in my brains and starts running it as a process. Then I'm killed. It's not me in there. It's a copy of me.
Yes. That is a very physical way of looking at things. X=Y right?
What if X is interrupted by Z before it gets to Y?
What I mean is, "thought". The mind or thought interrupts the physical state, it gives experience over the physical. Atoms are atoms but experience varies from person to person, Thomas Nagel speaks about this, Phenomenon. That experience or consciousness gives people the definition of a soul, a unique experience to that person.
It's very easy not to believe in a mind, soul or God when seeing things in physical form. The problem with the metal state is the language used to explain it is insufficient, so people dismiss it because when someone tries to explain the mind, soul or God it doesn't makes sense, no one can physically see or touch it. Experience gives use the possibility of a mind or soul since it's forever changing. The term I mean by that is "eliminativism", look it up. For example, when someone compares the mind or soul to a car, atoms, brain, actions, behavior etc. are all physical and not good comparisons. Mental compared to metal and physical with physical, confusion happens when we try to make X=Z=Y so to speak. When you reduce the mind to the physical, it makes the mind/experience insignificant, no more important than a fly on the wall. Your very existence is reduced to nothing.
Both are valid arguments like I said before, but don't dismiss his comments entirely because that's not what you believe, just like you're standing by your beliefs.Edited by WorldExclusive - 4/5/11 at 1:59pm