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Dude as a christian ima be happy to die so i can go chill with jesus

I honestly don't see how you guys can accept dieing and then eternal nothingness. Nothing left of you except dirt and what not.

Sorry but i'd feel like crap if i had to believe that stuffz.
of course you would feel like crap because you're just not understanding what is actually very simple concept; it is not "eternal nothingness", when you die your conscious mind no longer exists, without which there is nothing there to even realize that you no longer exist - "I think, therefore I am"

believing in things can be good, but don't let it stop you from thinking
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post #92 of 121
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

This is a lot of wishful thinking I am afraid. People have been working on the AI problem for decades and still very little progress has been made. Traditional computers likely will never 'think' like you or I do.
Nope, it'll happen. Assuming nothing catastrophic happens to the species between now and then. It's inevitable.

There's absolutely no reason why, once computers are powerful enough, we won't be able to emulate human brains.

People who believe in the 'sanctity of life' will quickly disagree, and that's fine. Won't change the outcome, though, and I'll be laughing at you in a few decades. There's nothing special about the phenomenon of the mind. That is what's wishful thinking.

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of course you would feel like crap because you're just not understanding what is actually very simple concept; it is not "eternal nothingness", when you die your conscious mind no longer exists, without which there is nothing there to even realize that you no longer exist - "I think, therefore I am"

believing in things can be good, but don't let it stop you from thinking
If your mind is reductionary, then there's really eternal everythingness . World doesn't stop turning, life goes on, etc.
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There's nothing special about the phenomenon of the mind.
That's most definitely the most wrong statement in existence.

The (human) mind is the most special, spectacular phenomenon in all of existence.

The ability to feel, though a by-product of the universe, is truly the only purpose to anything.

If, and I hope we can, artificially create that within a computer, it would be amazing.

But let's focus first on getting the computer to achieve a level of consciousness where it wants to help US not itself.
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That's most definitely the most wrong statement in existence.

The (human) mind is the most special, spectacular phenomenon in all of existence.

The ability to feel, though a by-product of the universe, is truly the only purpose to anything.

If, and I hope we can, artificially create that within a computer, it would be amazing.

But let's focus first on getting the computer to achieve a level of consciousness where it wants to help US not itself.


Purpose is relative. Opinions != Truth. While I respect your right to voice your opinions, I do not respect opinions being spouted under the guise of being truth.

Also, you mean in all of known existence. For now.
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That's most definitely the most wrong statement in existence.

The (human) mind is the most special, spectacular phenomenon in all of existence.

The ability to feel, though a by-product of the universe, is truly the only purpose to anything.

If, and I hope we can, artificially create that within a computer, it would be amazing.

But let's focus first on getting the computer to achieve a level of consciousness where it wants to help US not itself.

i'm sure my dog can feel!
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Purpose is relative. Opinions != Truth. While I respect your right to voice your opinions, I do not respect opinions being spouted under the guise of being truth.

Also, you mean in all of known existence. For now.
No, in fact, it is truth. Plain and simple. Cut and dry. Etcetera.
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No, in fact, it is truth. Plain and simple. Cut and dry. Etcetera.
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[Source].

It's a 5 page article Take your time. Fascinating. I'm just starting to learn the basics of AI.
Hardly. It's all rhetorical nonsense, with a lot of fallacies and inaccurate facts. Technology *might* reach the point of truly self-aware artificial life, but I'd be surprised if it's within any of our lifetimes.
    
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Well seeing as we (humans) barely even understand how the human brain works I can't see us making a self-concious AI that has the ability to learn and interact as humans do.

Its kind of like our understanding of the universe, we know quite a bit but we have barely scratched the surrface of what there is to discover. Its the same for the human brain. We only know a very small amount of what there is to learn.

So how can we honestly expect to replicate something we don't even extensively understand?

Quite simply, we can't. Not in 35 years anyway. Maybe 135 years, but I'll be dead by then so I don't give a crap
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