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[BitTech] AMD and GlobalFoundries renegotiate 32nm deal

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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...d-32nm-chips/1

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The revised agreement replaces the previous per-wafer payment deal that AMD's had since it span off its manufacturing wing to create Global Foundries.
Not a good sign... Companies have two choices when going to a fab. They can either pay-per-die or pay-per-wafer. Companies pay for the entire wafer if they can get good yields. If AMD is switching to per-die and this is public, that means the 32nm yields are terrible.
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Repost essentially

http://www.overclock.net/rumors-unco...s-cryptic.html
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not exactly, since now it's from a confirmed source.

I don't think people should have to check the rumors section before posting news.
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Doesn't this mean that AMD wasn't happy with GloFo, and that they are now offering a incentive for better quality? That's what I get from the read.

This is a good thing from what I can tell. Nothing bad about giving a bonus to GloFo for better qulity. Kudos to AMD for making Glofo step it up.
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this article doesnt say anything more than amd pays on a die basis instead of wafer basis ...


the rest is assumptions .... amd might have gone that route to lose less valueable money ... so cheaper cpus + more money for R&D in the future .. etc...
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this article doesnt say anything more than amd pays on a die basis instead of wafer basis ...


the rest is assumptions .... amd might have gone that route to lose less valueable money ... so cheaper cpus + more money for R&D in the future .. etc...
Nope, a company NEVER goes pay-per-die unless they expect yields are bad. Why else would a company pay-per-die?

You statement of "might have gone that route to lose less valueable money" makes no sense based on what is known. If yields are good, pay-per-wafer provides lower cost due to bulk purchases and indicates lower risk. Would you feel safe buying a lot of 10 cars? Probably not since you would want to inspect each one. Would you feel safe about buying a lot of 10 pencils? Probably yes since they all most likely met standards.
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/5/11 at 9:51pm
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Interesting... the additional payout by AMD is an adjustment to even the books and SA believe yield issues have been fixed.

We'll find in a few a months....
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Interesting... the additional payout by AMD is an adjustment to even the books and SA believe yield issues have been fixed.

We'll find in a few a months....

SA is pretty damn accurate, though most people bash it because of the ATI/nVidia feud.
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Nope, a company NEVER goes pay-per-die unless they expect yields are bad. Why else would a company pay-per-die?

You statement of "might have gone that route to lose less valueable money" makes no sense based on what is known. If yields are good, pay-per-wafer provides lower cost due to bulk purchases and indicates lower risk. Would you feel safe buying a lot of 10 cars? Probably not since you would want to inspect each one. Would you feel safe about buying a lot of 10 pencils? Probably yes since they all most likely met standards.

id feel safe if id get guaranteed on the quality of the lot ... so if a car is bad i can then return it ...


i think its what amd has made of sort .. and in regard to that charlie article posted in this thread ... it all makes sense now ... the deal was made when glofo had problem ramping up 32nm .. and now that they seem to have it under control they still continue with the deal but in 2012 they will pick up on a die basis ... its amd's way of making sure nothing goes sour ... and have good proffit margin ... have i gotten it right???
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