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So, recently I got asked by a friend to build a computer for him for lite gaming purposes however he has a very small budget at $750NZD. And yes this is in New Zealand Dollar and of course I would be buying the components in New Zealand and for those who don't know buying components in NZ is expensive unlike in the states where there's Newegg, Microcenter etc. So bare in mind that the price must be from NZ.

Here's the situation. He now owns a computer with a Prescott based Pentium 4 and a motherboard with built in GeForce 6200 graphics as I believed since I didn't check his current build in detail so I guess that's roughly the specs of his pc. He runs his system on a 17 inch monitor which I believe is 1024x768 and still will keep this monitor for this build for keeping the cost down. And of course he has his own keyboard, mouse and speakers.

He wish to run any current game at a playable frame rate at 1024x768 such as Metro2033, Crysis2, COD, Battlefield:BC2 etc. And expects significant improvement to his current build. Since this is a extremely low budget build I think he's better off AMD because I believe with that kind of budget he could squeeze in more perfermance with AMD. However I'm going to post this on the Intel section as well and see what are the outcomes.

Thanks in advanced,
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Cant exactly piece out a build on my phone, esp. for a kiwi.. But i'd say (as he seems like the lind of guy who doesnt upgrade often) that you should go with something like a low end AMD quad for a reasonable amount of future proofing, 2x2gb ddr3 1333 value ram, a nice, solidly overclocking single pcie x16 870 (or are they called 880?) motherboard, 600ish watt psu, western digital 640gb aaks/aals/whateverisaround50dollars hard-drive, a case with free shipping, and the most powerful video card you can fit in after you've picked out all those other things.

Hope this helps.

I doubt it did.

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Originally Posted by Rommel;13020777 
Cant exactly piece out a build on my phone, esp. for a kiwi.. But i'd say (as he seems like the lind of guy who doesnt upgrade often) that you should go with something like a low end AMD quad for a reasonable amount of future proofing, 2x2gb ddr3 1333 value ram, a nice, solidly overclocking single pcie x16 870 (or are they called 880?) motherboard, 600ish watt psu, western digital 640gb aaks/aals/whateverisaround50dollars hard-drive, a case with free shipping, and the most powerful video card you can fit in after you've picked out all those other things.

Hope this helps.

I doubt it did.

-Rommel

Thanks for the advise man! I appreciate it

Anyways atm I have come up with the following. What do u guys think?

AMD PHENOM II X4 840 PROCESSOR 3.2GHZ SOCKET AM3
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=14466

Corsair Value Select 2GB (1333MHz) DDR3 CL9 Value VS2GB1333D3
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=591

Western Digital 500GB 3.5" Blue Edition SATA3 7200RPM 16MB Cache HDD WD5000AAKX
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1449

Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 Motherboard 760G Chipset Socket AM3 DDR3 1333 Onboard Video Card Share Up to 512M PCI-E x 16 SATAII Raid VGA+DVI
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1294

COOLER MASTER Elite 334 Mid Tower 420W
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=569

MSI nVidia GTS450 OC Cyclone 1GB DDR5 Dual DVI HDMI
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1580

Using optical drive from older build

$752 NZD incl. GST

Sorry for the caps guys, since I just copied and pasted it directly.

Fix me if I missed any parts.
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You can definitely get something decent for that price. I think this fits the bill:

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB: $61 inc. GST

AMD Athlon II X4 635: $148 inc. GST

Silverstone PS02 Case: $81 inc. GST

Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM: $67 inc. GST

Antec EA-380D 380W PSU: $90 inc. GST

Lite-on DVD+RW Drive: $37 inc. GST

Radeon HD 5670: $139 inc. GST

Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 AM3 Motheboard: $97 inc. GST

Total inc. GST: $762


This build will run any of those games you mentioned easily at that resolution. He'll probably be able to play games at decent settings at that res. for 5 years.
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;13020947 
You can definitely get something decent for that price. I think this fits the bill:

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB: $61 inc. GST

AMD Athlon II X4 635: $148 inc. GST

Silverstone PS02 Case: $81 inc. GST

Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM: $67 inc. GST

Antec EA-380D 380W PSU: $90 inc. GST

Lite-on DVD+RW Drive: $37 inc. GST

Radeon HD 5670: $139 inc. GST

Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 AM3 Motheboard: $97 inc. GST

Total inc. GST: $762


This build will run any of those games you mentioned easily at that resolution. He'll probably be able to play games at decent settings at that res. for 5 years.

I appreciate your advise but I prefer to stick with my own config for now as I could squeeze in a GTS450 and a PII X4 for a similar amount of money.

My only concern now is that will the 430w psu built in the elite 344 handle all this power?
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Originally Posted by nGm@ze;13021182 
I appreciate your advise but I prefer to stick with my own config for now as I could squeeze in a GTS450 and a PII X4 for a similar amount of money.

My only concern now is that will the 430w psu built in the elite 344 handle all this power?

The Phenom II X4 840 is not a real Phenom. It's an Athlon II X4 that's being given the name "Phenom". It's based on the Propus die and not the Deneb die. The only difference between the 635 and the 840 is a 300MHz clock. If you want a real Phenom of the 800 series, you need to buy an 820. One of the biggest flaws in your build is choosing to go for only 2GB of RAM. Open just a few programs and the computer will feel noticeably slower. Nowadays, 4GB of RAM is pretty much a prerequisite for any computer except a netbook. Another problem with the build is the PSU. I checked it out and it can output around half its rated power and is known to use cheap components and die prematurely. Stay away from it at all costs.


You cut too many corners to try and get faster components. The PSU is the most essential part of any system, and the fact that you left it with only 2GB of RAM means that most of the advantage the GTS 450 has over the Radeon HD 5670 will go away.

EDIT:

Also, that GTS 450 is over-priced. You can get a Radeon HD 5770 for the same price.
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;13021709 
The Phenom II X4 840 is not a real Phenom. It's an Athlon II X4 that's being given the name "Phenom". It's based on the Propus die and not the Deneb die. The only difference between the 635 and the 840 is a 300MHz clock. If you want a real Phenom of the 800 series, you need to buy an 820. One of the biggest flaws in your build is choosing to go for only 2GB of RAM. Open just a few programs and the computer will feel noticeably slower. Nowadays, 4GB of RAM is pretty much a prerequisite for any computer except a netbook. Another problem with the build is the PSU. I checked it out and it can output around half its rated power and is known to use cheap components and die prematurely. Stay away from it at all costs.


You cut too many corners to try and get faster components. The PSU is the most essential part of any system, and the fact that you left it with only 2GB of RAM means that most of the advantage the GTS 450 has over the Radeon HD 5670 will go away.

EDIT:

Also, that GTS 450 is over-priced. You can get a Radeon HD 5770 for the same price.

I agree, btw I just realized that CPU was a rebrand thanks for the reminder. As for the RAM I'm actually gonna get two of them which makes more sense and I would prefer to stick with the GTS450 as it offers more future proofing. And for the PSU I actually don't know what to do about it with no money to spare.
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Antec Three-Hundred is a decent case, and it's not too expensive.

Edit: Is your friend planning to do any overclocking? If so it might be worth getting a different motherboard, but if not you'll probably be fine with the one you chose.

Edit 2: Also, if your friend is planning on gaming at 1024x768, you could probably get a slightly less expensive graphics card. I was using an 8800GT until I built my new rig, and it could still get ~20FPS on BFBC2 at 1400x900 with medium settings.
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I agree, btw I just realized that CPU was a rebrand thanks for the reminder. As for the RAM I'm actually gonna get two of them which makes more sense and I would prefer to stick with the GTS450 as it offers more future proofing. And for the PSU I actually don't know what to do about it with no money to spare.

The PSU is the most important part on any computer. If it fails, more likely than not it will take out most of your PCs components with it. This is not an area where you want to skimp. Get the EA-380; it's much more reliable and can actually deliver its rated watts.

The GTS 450 is not more future-proof in any way than a Radeon HD 5770. It offers the same features but costs the same and is less powerful.

Again, when building a PC, you should not skimp on components. The 5670 is a bit slower, but by going that route your friend will have a much more reliable PC because of the PSU.

Another thing: at his current resolution (1024x768), there's absolutely no game the 5670 won't run at high settings. At that res., even a 5770 is over-kill.
    
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