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press control+alt+F1, that will end your X session....
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post #12 of 32
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press control+alt+F1, that will end your X session....
that will not "end" it, it will just switch tty's. you have to either "kill" xorg/gdm or end the service (if you are in ubuntu.) you will need to end "gdm" if you are planning on installing the nvidia drivers from the package on nvidia's site.
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ubuntu doesnt use sysv startup scripts? i thought it did :/ debian does

if it did, its all really simple, just go to /etc/rc?.d where ? is your run level and change the name of the gdm symlink, then run two commands which are usually easily found in a readme in the same folder and your good... default run level for debian stuff (which i assume SHOULD include ubuntu) is 2, so you can just edit /etc/rc2.d/ or you can edit 3 and change your default run level to 3 in inittab

but if ubuntu doesnt use sysv startup scripts i have no idea cause im sure it doesnt use an old school style startup script
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Err, the OP said that this thread is already solved. Or does anyone bother to read before posting?
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post #15 of 32
Even though the OP solved the issue; it's when you start doing things like this, it's probably a good time to just use Debian.

Ubuntu is finicky when it comes to doing things like this. Debian isn't. Like something about Ubuntu? Just install it. Debian will let you work with the standards, too rather than the Canonical's unstable copycat software.
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Even though the OP solved the issue; it's when you start doing things like this, it's probably a good time to just use Debian.

Ubuntu is finicky when it comes to doing things like this. Debian isn't. Like something about Ubuntu? Just install it. Debian will let you work with the standards, too rather than the Canonical's unstable copycat software.
That's funny, because the solution is exactly the same for Debian.
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That's funny, because the solution is exactly the same for Debian.
Using grub sure is a round-about solution and doesn't seem to be its place or KISS at all.

It's been a long time since I've used Debian/Ubuntu, but I use grub to load the kernel at startup and that's about it. It doesn't make sense to use it for anything else. Whether X runs or not should be up to init.

I know Ubuntu uses upstart nowadays, but I was pretty sure debian still uses sysv.

So sure, your method may work, but if someone handed me a computer and asked me to undo what you did, I would almost never guess that it was grub.

Logically to me, it just doesn't make sense.
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Using grub sure is a round-about solution and doesn't seem to be its place or KISS at all.

It's been a long time since I've used Debian/Ubuntu, but I use grub to load the kernel at startup and that's about it. It doesn't make sense to use it for anything else. Whether X runs or not should be up to init.

I know Ubuntu uses upstart nowadays, but I was pretty sure debian still uses sysv.

So sure, your method may work, but if someone handed me a computer and asked me to undo what you did, I would almost never guess that it was grub.

Logically to me, it just doesn't make sense.
I never said it made sense. So many things in Debian/Ubuntu don't make sense that I usually avoid it.
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I never said it made sense. So many things in Debian/Ubuntu don't make sense that I usually avoid it.
Yeah, I just figured that the grub solution may (sadly) be the best Ubuntu has, but Debian would actually be able to use something that made sense.
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Yeah, I just figured that the grub solution may (sadly) be the best Ubuntu has, but Debian would actually be able to use something that made sense.
i run debian (more or less, crunchbang is just debian with different default set up )

and yeah sysv is really the way to go...

to change runlevel 3 to be a multi user command line only session, i just had to change the first letter of the gdm symlink in /etc/rc3.d and then "update-rc.d script defaults" and if i wanted to change my default runlevel to 3, i just edit one line in /etc/inittab lol

ive never had to edit grub to do something ridiculously simple like that...

grub should be responsible for pointing your computer in the right direction to your kernal... you dont need to add fifty options to start your OS up a certain way because its easy enough just to edit runlevels and pick one to boot by default lol

ubuntu is a nice intro to linux, but a more traditional linux install is actually simpler
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