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Hello there,

This is my first post, but I have been perusing these boards for some time now.

My set up is:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 - currently at 3.8GHz (200MHz x 19 @ bios 1.425)
CPU-Z shows the voltage as 1.392...
Idles 38c, 100% Load is 51c

ASUS M4N98TD Evo
HT Link - 2000MHz
CPU/NB Freq - 2400 MHz (@ 1.325)

G.Skill Ripjaw 1600MHz 7-8-7-24 (@ 1.66) - this is stock

GeForce GTX 480 - 805MHz, Mem - 1058MHz, Shader - 1609MHz
Idles 37c, 100% load 74c

Case - Antec 1200

Corsair 850w

All drivers and bios are up to date

This is a stable set up - 12+ hours Prime 95 and 12+ hours Memtest

I cannot seem to push beyond the 3.8 whether I raise the bus frequency, multiplier CPU/NB frequency (of course while incrementing voltage as well)

Can anyone toss me some advice on how to proceed from here? I'd like to hit 4GHz and I'm fairly confident that this system can do it!

Thanks in advance for any helpful responses

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Originally Posted by Grey_Vince;13026023 
Hello there,

This is my first post, but I have been perusing these boards for some time now.

My set up is:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 - currently at 3.8GHz (200MHz x 19 @ bios 1.425)
CPU-Z shows the voltage as 1.392...
Idles 38c, 100% Load is 51c

ASUS M4N98TD Evo
HT Link - 2000MHz
CPU/NB Freq - 2400 MHz (@ 1.325)

G.Skill Ripjaw 1600MHz 7-8-7-24 (@ 1.66) - this is stock

GeForce GTX 480 - 805MHz, Mem - 1058MHz, Shader - 1609MHz
Idles 37c, 100% load 74c

Case - Antec 1200

Corsair 850w

All drivers and bios are up to date

This is a stable set up - 12+ hours Prime 95 and 12+ hours Memtest

I cannot seem to push beyond the 3.8 whether I raise the bus frequency, multiplier CPU/NB frequency (of course while incrementing voltage as well)

Can anyone toss me some advice on how to proceed from here? I'd like to hit 4GHz and I'm fairly confident that this system can do it!

Thanks in advance for any helpful responses

(I've attached a helpful screenshot of CPU-Z among other OC-related apps)

Hey man, you've got a very similar set-up to mine. First off, put your system info into your profile, that'll help ppl get a big picture idea. I ran into the same problem, I was up to 3.9GHz and voltage was 1.475 and I kept BSOD, as I raised my voltage it got better but still would BSOD in prime95. I eventually got it really stable at 3.7GHz and 1.375v (200X18.5). I kept bumping into 59C temps at load and for safety I just stopped at 3.7GHz. I have a Corsair H50 to mod and install this weekend so I'm expecting much better numbers with that done.

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As stated above, make sure to keep your temps down, but it looks like you're alright there.

Try maybe 1.45v on the CPU with a 20 multi and see what gives.
    
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Originally Posted by WildcatWhiz;13026790 
As stated above, make sure to keep your temps down, but it looks like you're alright there.

Try maybe 1.45v on the CPU with a 20 multi and see what gives.

Tried that out, bluescreened right off the bat when running Prime95 doh.gif

Any other suggestions? Should I attempt to raise the CPU/NB frequency?
    
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Originally Posted by Grey_Vince;13027284 
Tried that out, bluescreened right off the bat when running Prime95 doh.gif

Any other suggestions? Should I attempt to raise the CPU/NB frequency?

I wouldn't raise it anymore--at least not until you get your CPU clock stable. Raising the NB frequency too high might result in BSODs as it is.

Try vcore at 1.5v, then 1.55v. If you can't get it at either of those, it's probably temps.
    
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Originally Posted by WildcatWhiz;13029442 
I wouldn't raise it anymore--at least not until you get your CPU clock stable. Raising the NB frequency too high might result in BSODs as it is.

Try vcore at 1.5v, then 1.55v. If you can't get it at either of those, it's probably temps.

I raised it to 1.5v and crash after 5 minutes

Raised it to 1.55v and crashed after 10 minutes or so (temp reach 57c under full load)

I tested out just my bus frequency and it can hit 250-260MHz and be stable

But that's with the multiplier set at 10 (as opposed to 15-19)

Any further suggestions?

And thank you so much for you help/time.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey_Vince;13030708 
I raised it to 1.5v and crash after 5 minutes

Raised it to 1.55v and crashed after 10 minutes or so (temp reach 57c under full load)

I tested out just my bus frequency and it can hit 250-260MHz and be stable

But that's with the multiplier set at 10 (as opposed to 15-19)

Any further suggestions?

And thank you so much for you help/time.

No problem. I am still a newbie here on OCN, but I have pretty extensive experience with my own 955. Your 965 should (theoretically) be easier. Just for S and G's, lower your NB frequency back to stock (2000Mhz) and loosen your RAM timings a bit. I doubt the IMC or RAM is holding you back, but it's worth eliminating it as a possibility. Once you've done that, test again at 1.45v, 1.5v, and 1.55v.
    
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Originally Posted by WildcatWhiz;13030750 
No problem. I am still a newbie here on OCN, but I have pretty extensive experience with my own 955. Your 965 should (theoretically) be easier. Just for S and G's, lower your NB frequency back to stock (2000Mhz) and loosen your RAM timings a bit. I doubt the IMC or RAM is holding you back, but it's worth eliminating it as a possibility. Once you've done that, test again at 1.45v, 1.5v, and 1.55v.

Lowered the NB frequency to 2000MHz

Loosened the RAM timings to 9-9-9-24

Tested at 1.45 - immediate BSOD

Tested at 1.50 - 3 mins Prime95 then BSOD

Tested at 1.55 - about 30 minutes Prime95 then BSOD

Again, I hit about 57c under 100% load @ 1.55v
    
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Originally Posted by Grey_Vince;13031118 
Lowered the NB frequency to 2000MHz

Loosened the RAM timings to 9-9-9-24

Tested at 1.45 - immediate BSOD

Tested at 1.50 - 3 mins Prime95 then BSOD

Tested at 1.55 - about 30 minutes Prime95 then BSOD

Again, I hit about 57c under 100% load @ 1.55v

Well, you got a little bit farther on that 1.55v run than previously...if you don't mind pushng te limits, maybe try 1.56. By the way, do you have cpu load line calibration (llc) on in the bios? Turn it on if it's not already on, and try 1.55v again.
    
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Originally Posted by WildcatWhiz;13035424 
Well, you got a little bit farther on that 1.55v run than previously...if you don't mind pushng te limits, maybe try 1.56. By the way, do you have cpu load line calibration (llc) on in the bios? Turn it on if it's not already on, and try 1.55v again.

Yeah, I've heard that when overclocking to higher frequencies you should turn LLC off, unfortunately, I cannot find that option under the CPU, devices, or ai overclock options in the bios. (Any guidance in helping me find this setting would be appreciated)

Also, about pushing to 1.56 - as stated above, my temps are hitting 57c under 100% load, I've heard that 62c is the max, but I've also heard that 55c is the safest temp?

Any confirmation on those numbers?
    
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